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Re: Goodman Grey, nemfected?
« Reply #45 on: September 11, 2023, 01:10:47 PM »
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Used to be, the Archive would Oracle stuff out to humanity; but not practical use-it-now info, it was oracular-foretelling shit that mostly people couldn't use, would only recognize after the fat... after the tragic warnings were overlooked, came to pass, and people said "if only we had realized..."

The Archive has no control over people who have their collective heads up their asses... ::)

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Re: Goodman Grey, nemfected?
« Reply #46 on: September 11, 2023, 11:19:56 PM »
The Archive has no control over people who have their collective heads up their asses... ::) 

While that is indubitably true, it's also true that Delphic Oracle, and many others, were just chock-full of exemplars wherein one or more of:
  • the response to the prophecy is what triggered the terrible fate
  • the prophecy was so obscure that the participants could only see the prophetic truth in hindsight
  • the prophecy seemed so impossible, nobody saw how to react to it, to even try to prevent it
were true.  And so it came to pass...

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Re: Goodman Grey, nemfected?
« Reply #47 on: September 12, 2023, 12:56:21 PM »
While that is indubitably true, it's also true that Delphic Oracle, and many others, were just chock-full of exemplars wherein one or more of:
  • the response to the prophecy is what triggered the terrible fate
  • the prophecy was so obscure that the participants could only see the prophetic truth in hindsight
  • the prophecy seemed so impossible, nobody saw how to react to it, to even try to prevent it
were true.  And so it came to pass...

Nor does have any control on howpeople will react.. That's a matter for free will and choices, there are good choices and bad ones.  The real problem comes from people failing to act at all because they think they are doomed, and so it comes to pass as predicted.

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Re: Goodman Grey, nemfected?
« Reply #48 on: September 15, 2023, 05:33:37 AM »
Goodman Grey is a single unaffiliated individual, his Nemfection would not advance Nemesis cause one jot.
Goodman Grey is a single individual operating at a level where he interacts with Odin, and with Nicodemus Archleone.

Goodman Grey is one of about half a dozen beings with similar qualifications.  You know what else there's similar rarity of?  Faerie Queens.  Senior members of the White Council.  You know what's more-common?  Fallen angels inhabiting Blackened Denarii.

Goodman Grey is so good at what he does (undercover ops & infiltration) that he flies entirely under the wardens' radar (Harry recognizes Hannah from Warden reports, but nothing about Grey).

Goodman Grey has repeatedly operated with Harry Dresden -- or in his close proximity -- in order to pay Rent.

Tell me again how Grey is of no use to Nemesis...?

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Re: Goodman Grey, nemfected?
« Reply #49 on: September 15, 2023, 08:17:43 AM »
He isn’t in a position of continuing trust with anyone and those who hire him know it. That’s what Nemesis plays on Mab’s trust of Lea, Lara and Thomas trust of Justine.

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Re: Goodman Grey, nemfected?
« Reply #50 on: September 15, 2023, 01:21:53 PM »
He isn’t in a position of continuing trust with anyone and those who hire him know it. That’s what Nemesis plays on Mab’s trust of Lea, Lara and Thomas trust of Justine.

How is he not in position of continuing trust? He is a mercenary, because he has to pay the rent.. However he hasn't shown so far that he hasn't done what he has been paid to do.  While Nemesis does mess with trust as you say, that only works as long as it's infection or infestation remains unknown... Once it is known it is dealt with, i.e. Lea treated, she is trusted now.. Maeve couldn't be treated, killed.

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Re: Goodman Grey, nemfected?
« Reply #51 on: September 18, 2023, 07:07:18 PM »
He isn’t in a position of continuing trust with anyone and those who hire him know it ...

Odin (for example) does trust him, though; trusts him to be good to his word, even at the risk of death (i.e. fighting multiple Denarians, in Hades' underworld vault).  So do most of the people who hire him (or they wouldn't hire him).

He doesn't have a unique relationship with a single principle, but his trust reaches more-broadly than any other Nemfected(*) we know.

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(*) Not that we know he is/isn't Nemfected...
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