Jim interview

[morriswalters]

I think perhaps the "evil vibes" defense were enough. They left, didn't they? You do not need to shoot a housefly with a shotgun, even if you have one handy.

Alfred likes a purpose. Plus... maybe he feels good about adding inmates. Under Harry he got to add Ethniu, and at least temporarily Thomas.  Maybe he can't jail people without orders, and he is reluctant to blow them away.

Plus, didn't we hear about a failsafe? I have to assume Merlin puts one in. I would.

There is a fail safe. It destroys the prison and the Great Lakes region.  Butcher is still channeling Aliens. "It's the only way to be sure."

Now what Butcher actually implies is that had the fail safe been triggered everybody on that hill would have been cooked since it was designed to kill gods.

Don't look at this too closely because there are logical contradictions.

[Mira]

There is a fail safe. It destroys the prison and the Great Lakes region.  Butcher is still channeling Aliens. "It's the only way to be sure."

Now what Butcher actually implies is that had the fail safe been triggered everybody on that hill would have been cooked since it was designed to kill gods.

Don't look at this too closely because there are logical contradictions.

Yeah, but that fail safe sucks because Alfred cannot judge between a truly dire situation, where such a drastic solution is warranted and one that is merely dangerous, bad, but solvable.  More to the point, if known about like it and the prison were by the likes of Maeve and Outsiders no tools beyond the fail safe to combat it.

[Ed0517]

But even failsafes have to be controlled, that requires judgement.  It is like the bounty hunter robot in The Mandalorian, when things got hairy it put itself in self destruct mode, and Din had to repeatedly talk it out of it, because there was another solution.  Eventually it did self destruct to save Din and Grogu and company, but under their guidance, because there was no other way.

No, the idea of the fail safe is it is not controlled. It's the "breach max security, don't provide the password in 10 seconds, the nuke goes off and "sanitizes" the area". The bad guys don't go free because they got vaporized. But so do good guys and unknowing neutrals  nearby, so it is not the most desired reply

[g33k]

No, the idea of the fail safe is it is not controlled. It's the "breach max security, don't provide the password in 10 seconds, the nuke goes off and "sanitizes" the area". The bad guys don't go free because they got vaporized. But so do good guys and unknowing neutrals  nearby, so it is not the most desired reply

I'm pretty sure most of the prisoners would only be injured, not killed.  Physical bodies would be destroyed.

It would only buy a little time for the mortal world... years, maybe?  Even decades?  Barely enough time to get a new cadre of "senior" wizards up from the mid-tiers...

[vincentric]

I'm pretty sure most of the prisoners would only be injured, not killed.  Physical bodies would be destroyed.

It would only buy a little time for the mortal world... years, maybe?  Even decades?  Barely enough time to get a new cadre of "senior" wizards up from the mid-tiers...

It depends on when the failsafe goes off.

The failsafe was beyond a nuclear level blast, probably more than Tunguska or Krakatoa. Anything mortal or on par with a Nagloshii would be capital "D" dead. But the scheme was for Halloween, a time when even the immortals can be killed. I believe that everything that is tied to one physical body would have perished but that still leaves a number of beings on the Winter Queen level or above that would regenerate over time like Sauron or find a new host body like the Winter Mantles.

Maybe some of those things don't hop directly on the Outsider train but enough do to overwhelm the remaining Accorded Nations(who are definitely going to splinter) and that's The End. It's just that it might not all happen immediately. The Mortal world won't be finished recovering from the event before the first Cthulu level threats start popping upand the burst of energy over those ley lines would have stirred up every dark power hidden in the Western Hemisphere to kick that off. The apocalypse might take a century or two to run it's course but it would be too late to stop it.