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Re: A notion...
« Reply #30 on: June 16, 2022, 04:24:15 PM »
We haven’t heard from Evil Bob recently……..hmmmm.

I suspect a sanctum may need to be built by a mortal as it is a protection in the mortal world. Similar to mortals having to summon Outsiders in. Or a threshold only protects mortals. Bobs original sanctum was built by Etienne the Enchanter and Bob bargained away considerable freedom to get it. Did Bob the Smartass Castle bargain with Harry?

There seems to be a no on bootstrapping in this way.

Of course Evil Bob can manifest ectoplamically and bully a mortal practitioner into making a Sanctum for him, though that seems to be wizard level and quite tricky.

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« Reply #31 on: June 16, 2022, 09:16:53 PM »
We haven’t heard from Evil Bob recently……..hmmmm.

I am a bit worried about "Bob the Castle" having adopted EvilBobWinter Blue Livery...

I think it's just coincidence.

Probably.

But Jim can be something of a bastard sometimes...

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« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2022, 05:50:16 PM »
My theory on the blue winter livery is that it is Harry trying to create a new connection to the NeverNever and Arctis Tor, specifically the Winter Knight quarters. He is residing at the Castle and has his Za Guard living there as well (Winter Warriors) Bob declaring for winter might be part of an amnesty with Mab, but it aids in this. His meditation is actually visualisation of the link.

The reason is to give Maggie a secure bolt hole to the NeverNever, I also think there is an existing route to Demonreach from Arctis Tor used by The Gatekeeper and Maeve.

I think the Evil Bob arc might end with the two Bobs amalgamating back into a single Bob.

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« Reply #33 on: June 18, 2022, 06:32:54 AM »
My theory on the blue winter livery is that it is Harry trying to create a new connection to the NeverNever and Arctis Tor, specifically the Winter Knight quarters. He is residing at the Castle and has his Za Guard living there as well (Winter Warriors) Bob declaring for winter might be part of an amnesty with Mab, but it aids in this. His meditation is actually visualisation of the link.
Makes sense. Apparently Harry is "Claiming the castle" in the magical sense.
However, Maeve didn't use a way, she jumped off a plane.
هل أخذت الغاب مثلي منزلاً دون القصور
فتتبعت السواقي وتسلقت الصخور
هل تحممت بعطره وتنشفت بنور
وشربت الفجر خمراً من كؤوس من أثير

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Re: A notion...
« Reply #34 on: June 18, 2022, 07:48:19 AM »
That veil suit..... what about a sort of wearable Faraday Cage? Keeps the magic in. Allows use of modern electrical stuff, TVs, computers, etc. Seems blocking is easier than transmitting....

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« Reply #35 on: June 18, 2022, 01:38:50 PM »
Makes sense. Apparently Harry is "Claiming the castle" in the magical sense.
However, Maeve didn't use a way, she jumped off a plane.

Turn Coat not Cold Days, Maeve brought Peabody to the Island by the Ways, with the Spiders and took him off. Peabody couldn’t get there by himself, and Maeve took a huge risk, probably rendering that route unusable if it was under Mab’s scrutiny after Turncoat. That is suggestive of Arctis Tor. There is a way from Chicago from Pells Theatre to the Phobophages lair outside Arctis Tor, Peabody could and did go from Edinburgh to Chicago by himself, met by Maeve who took him to Arctis Tor via Pell’s and then on foot into Arctis Tor, to the waypoint to Demonreach, which I think we have seen, it’s Mab’s Ice Dungeon where Lea was on Ice. Where else in the Never Never is going to be congruent to Demonreach?

Clearly by Cold Days even Mab didn’t dare use it as Harry had learnt enough about the island  to take her down if she set foot on it, and Harry would know via his intellectus. That why she wouldn’t step off the dock.

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Re: A notion...
« Reply #36 on: June 18, 2022, 02:34:41 PM »
If Mab thinks Harry needs a door she will have one created for him, however if the Winter Knight needs a door to get to to the Winter nerve center he's a bad Knight. He should have the fortress on portal speed dial.

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« Reply #37 on: June 18, 2022, 04:40:36 PM »
Mab is a firm believer in self help, unless she has skin in the game Harry is on his own.

And he knows it.

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« Reply #38 on: June 18, 2022, 06:07:29 PM »
That veil suit..... what about a sort of wearable Faraday Cage? Keeps the magic in. Allows use of modern electrical stuff, TVs, computers, etc. Seems blocking is easier than transmitting....
I don't believe a Faraday cage will block magic, only E-M radiation.  It therefore *WOULD* block tv's, radio, wifi, cellphone, etc.

You could get a landline or fiberoptic through a Faraday cage, but crossing a magic circle with such a line would break the circle.  The E-M spectrum crosses magic easily, though... wifi, cellphone, etc.

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Re: A notion...
« Reply #39 on: June 18, 2022, 09:40:21 PM »
Harry needs a collapsible hula hoop, a bit of blood and will and presto instant magic circle insulating him from outside forces and preventing him from hexing up technology.

Better yet hooped clown trousers, presumably a magical circle works upwards and downwards, so one suspended around his middle will be portable, he can move it with him.

If only he had thought of it when he had the Blue Beetle….

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Re: A notion...
« Reply #40 on: June 18, 2022, 09:44:43 PM »
There are many many ways to solve the technology problem. But Jim wanted the wizards to be handicapped, so they are. I admit it makes the books more fun.
هل أخذت الغاب مثلي منزلاً دون القصور
فتتبعت السواقي وتسلقت الصخور
هل تحممت بعطره وتنشفت بنور
وشربت الفجر خمراً من كؤوس من أثير

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Re: A notion...
« Reply #41 on: June 19, 2022, 12:24:09 AM »
I don't believe a Faraday cage will block magic, only E-M radiation.  It therefore *WOULD* block tv's, radio, wifi, cellphone, etc.

You could get a landline or fiberoptic through a Faraday cage, but crossing a magic circle with such a line would break the circle.  The E-M spectrum crosses magic easily, though... wifi, cellphone, etc.

A simple Faraday cage won't but the the storage shed on Turn Coat was modeled on that principle. A more complicated setup rings of wards and cages should be possible(Actually, we know it is because the Swartalves building had no trouble with the power while Harry was there).

And Jim only uses it as a dramatic plot device, The only thing Harry consistently hexes is computers unless he does so intentionally.

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« Reply #42 on: June 19, 2022, 04:54:21 AM »
...(Actually, we know it is because the Swartalves building had no trouble with the power while Harry was there) ...
We don't know HOW they do it, actually.  They may have some secret method to bypass the hexing effect.  Or they may just observe the modern conveniences and observe, "sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology."

And Jim only uses it as a dramatic plot device, The only thing Harry consistently hexes is computers unless he does so intentionally.

He hexes cellphones, including being unable to own one himself.

He hexes modern cars; they don't insta-die, but the complex subsystems each fail with relative rapidity; both Thomas' SUV and Billy&Georgia's failed soon after Harry began driving them.  More a "comedic" than dramatic plot device!

Medical equipment goes down near him, though he can usually minimize that for a short while, when it's crucial.

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« Reply #43 on: June 19, 2022, 06:18:35 AM »
Harry actually needs a less brutal version of Thorn Manacles, which allow him to dial back his powers to protect tech when required, something no more than a diabetic blood test  finger prick, rather than the savage bite. Rotate, prick, powers off, rotate again powers back on.

Harry would of course get it accidentally jammed on. During a fight.

However this would be very useful for Young wizards to attend normal schools without killing their computers and phones. Harry could go to a normal cinema. Or hospital.

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« Reply #44 on: June 19, 2022, 02:36:25 PM »
We don't know HOW they do it, actually.  They may have some secret method to bypass the hexing effect.  Or they may just observe the modern conveniences and observe, "sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology."

He hexes cellphones, including being unable to own one himself.

He hexes modern cars; they don't insta-die, but the complex subsystems each fail with relative rapidity; both Thomas' SUV and Billy&Georgia's failed soon after Harry began driving them.  More a "comedic" than dramatic plot device!

Medical equipment goes down near him, though he can usually minimize that for a short while, when it's crucial.

Right, but the parts he hexes are always the computers and the microcomputers of the cars. It's why he can drive older cars safely, they don't have the electronics to fry.