Harry creates a portal to Demonreach!

[b4utoo]

Just because one wizard knows a way doesn't mean Mab knows the way. And does it say Demonreach goes to Fairy or does it go to the Never Never. Mab "controls" Fairy not never never. She could be limited outside of fairy in the Never Never

[Mira]

Just because one wizard knows a way doesn't mean Mab knows the way. And does it say Demonreach goes to Fairy or does it go to the Never Never. Mab "controls" Fairy not never never. She could be limited outside of fairy in the Never Never

Do you really think that Mab doesn't know all the Ways in the Nevernever?  If she doesn't, she has stooges who do, don't underestimate Mab.

[b4utoo]

So exactly how big do you think is never never is LOL I'm quite certain Mab doesn't know a fraction of all the ways of the Never Never. Fairy is huge and it's supposed to be a grain of sand in size compared the Never Never

[Conspiracy Theorist]

Do you really think that Mab doesn't know all the Ways in the Nevernever?  If she doesn't, she has stooges who do, don't underestimate Mab.

Mab likely knows all the ways in the Never Never for Faerie, summer, Winter, Wylde, to the mortal world BUT the Never Never is far more than just Faerie, which is supposed to be the closest part to the mortal realm. Demonreach could for example back onto Tartarus in Hades domain, which would make a nice parallel for Marcone’s Bank backing onto Hades Vault, given the ongoing rivalry (at least on Marcone’s part. I think Marcone would be genuinely shocked at how little Harry thinks or worries about him compared to how much Marcone worries about Harry.)

Hades is way above Mab’s weight class, going through his domain even with consent is a terrible risk, becoming beholden to a greater power, and having to trade a major favour to do it. Mab’s discharging favours rather than giving them out, basically you would have to do a Butters to earn one these days.

Hades wanted to audition Harry to move the weapons into the mortal realm (the White God obviously has forbidden a being at his power level from going to the mortal world, and can enforce it.) Mab provided Harry, her vassal to do it. Favour earned from Hades.

[Mira]

  While all of that might be true, if Mab wants the information, she could get it.  Perhaps she didn't use the way, because she didn't want Harry to know about it, or it didn't serve her purpose. 

[Arjan]

  While all of that might be true, if Mab wants the information, she could get it.  Perhaps she didn't use the way, because she didn't want Harry to know about it, or it didn't serve her purpose.

It is also important that she arrives in style and she did exactly that.

[Conspiracy Theorist]

Yeah, she is all about making an entrance, to cause awe, to cause wonder, to cause beguilement, or just plain cause Harry to crap his pants. All of those are just as good to her.

[morriswalters]

So exactly how big do you think is never never is LOL I'm quite certain Mab doesn't know a fraction of all the ways of the Never Never. Fairy is huge and it's supposed to be a grain of sand in size compared the Never Never

Don't conflate the size of the Nevernever with knowledge of the ways. Mab may know all the ways, even if she can't use them.  She also knows how to manipulate them. For instance she knew where Hades realm was and she manipulated reality to connect Marcone's vault and Hades realm.

[Conspiracy Theorist]

Again Hades wanted to audition the Winter Knight as a possible mortal custodian of the artefacts, so a link was made both by circumstance and design, Harry had to break in to maintain the integrity of the link, an invite would undermine it.

Mab isn’t an Intellectus, so she does not have a comprehensive knowledge of the ways. There are realms in the NeverNever shut to her, those of more powerful gods content to dwell in their own domains like Hades, some friendly, some not, and it depends upon what information they deign to give her.

Remember Mab’s power level through her mantel appears to have been deliberately set so that she is as powerful as she can be to be able to manifest almost full time in the mortal world without breaking reality too much, (except for the weather) even the addition of the Summer Knights power via the Stone Table to her Mantle is enough to cause an ice age. Her power level is too low for a general intellectus, like the Mothers or Uriel.

[morriswalters]

I'm simply saying that she understands the nature of the connection represented by the ways.  How they are made and unmade.  She may have some control. Butcher is deliberately vague.

[Conspiracy Theorist]

Every practitioner has an understanding of the ways to some degree or other, Margaret and the Gatekeeper superior among Wizards. Doubtless there are some wizards who have so little they have to be shown and can really only use the well known and well established ways, others can interpolate where a previously unknown way will come out in the Never Never.

Mab was at one point a mortal practitioner, she became more powerful, not necessarily more “knowing” of the ways, and she was able to use other means of travel such as teleportation surpassing them.

[Mira]

Every practitioner has an understanding of the ways to some degree or other, Margaret and the Gatekeeper superior among Wizards. Doubtless there are some wizards who have so little they have to be shown and can really only use the well known and well established ways, others can interpolate where a previously unknown way will come out in the Never Never.

Mab was at one point a mortal practitioner, she became more powerful, not necessarily more “knowing” of the ways, and she was able to use other means of travel such as teleportation surpassing them.

Some knowledge isn't the same as knowing. Rashid had been at it for hundreds of years so he knows the Ways pretty well.  Margaret explored them and I bet had some help from Rashid as well, to map them so her son when the time came could use them as he did in Changes.

[Conspiracy Theorist]

It’s knowledge and intuition as to where a way will come out, it’s one thing to have a map, it’s quite another to be cartographer.

[b4utoo]

Enter Harry Blackstone Copperfield Dresden LeFey

[Conspiracy Theorist]

Le Fay was an assumed name, it’s the real McCoy.