What should happen to Rudolph?

[K.L.O.E.]

Lara sends a White Court Vampire after Rudolph as a wedding present. Disgraced cop commits suicide? Who'd investigate the super model that just moved in next door?

[Dina]

Now that you mentioned it, I think Gard's sister would be more than willing to help with that (she cannot force a man to commit suicide the way a vampire can, but she has other ways, I am sure).

[forumghost]

Rudolph already committed suicide in BG and God himself intervened to save him, I doubt that he's going anywhere.

He has to continue to exist as an annoying Karma Houdini that Dresden isn't allowed to kill like the rest of his enemies to maximize Harry's suffering you see.

[b4utoo]

I think Rudolph should visit Mab's traitor tree for rest of the series but instead of traitor they can carve "Believe"  then just before end of series he should be sent to Hades and enjoy the judgments that follow...

[Mira]

  I think Molly is going to do a number on his brain, because as Winter Lady she is beyond the White Council now and knows her Knight/mentor/friend, Harry cannot do it to avenge Murphy.  Rudolph will live out his days in a fetal position with his thumb in his mouth looking for his navel.

[Dina]

I don't think Molly, as a Queen, is allowed to directly harm a vanilla man (I mean, we know Mab is not allowed, I don't think the Lady can)

[Mira]

I don't think Molly, as a Queen, is allowed to directly harm a vanilla man (I mean, we know Mab is not allowed, I don't think the Lady can)

She may have a way around that, I seem to remember Maeve messing with Billy in Summer Knight.  I don't think it would take much to completely boot Rudolph off the sanity deep end for good.

[K.L.O.E.]

I don't think Molly, as a Queen, is allowed to directly harm a vanilla man (I mean, we know Mab is not allowed, I don't think the Lady can)

There are many ways Molly could use winter to entrap Rudolph. Make a deal, send a changeling, send a phobophage, etc. I don't think she'll mind whammy him directly but she may look for revenge.

[morriswalters]

So it's okay for someone else to murder Rudolf even though the Knights went out of their way to save him?  This is a blood thirsty group. A few words noting his admittance to a home for the terminally stupid is more than enough print space for him.

[Mira]

So it's okay for someone else to murder Rudolf even though the Knights went out of their way to save him?  This is a blood thirsty group. A few words noting his admittance to a home for the terminally stupid is more than enough print space for him.

  I don't believe the Knights went out of their way to save Rudolph, they went out of their way to save Harry.  It was Harry's soul that was at stake had he taken revenge on Rudolph, it isn't up to him to judge.  Rudolph will face justice, perhaps in the courts, certainly before the Almighty.

[bigdangmoose]

Ok, so why is it ok for Molly to mess with someone's mind now when it's still just as wrong now as when she did it back in PG. That was the first lesson she learned from Harry.

It doesn't matter how much it could possibly make Harry feel better, she knows that the ending outcome would hurt her relationship with Harry.

[morriswalters]

Yeah, let the White God do him. That would work.

[K.L.O.E.]

So it's okay for someone else to murder Rudolf even though the Knights went out of their way to save him?  This is a blood thirsty group. A few words noting his admittance to a home for the terminally stupid is more than enough print space for him.

I don't think any of us are being particularly bloodthirsty, part of this is Catharsis over how some fans feel Murphy went out, part of this is speculating where the drama will come from next. Molly or Lara killing Rudolph brings the drama to Harry's life. With Molly it raises the question of how much or her humanity is left? Lara doing the deed raises the specter of intervention by Eb or another major player acting against her. Tons of great story potential from either of those options.

Ok, so why is it ok for Molly to mess with someone's mind now when it's still just as wrong now as when she did it back in PG. That was the first lesson she learned from Harry.

It doesn't matter how much it could possibly make Harry feel better, she knows that the ending outcome would hurt her relationship with Harry.

Again, I think that if Molly does kill Rudolph directly or indirectly it will not be "ok" and be treated as a huge crossing the line moment by everyone who knows Molly.

[Mira]

Ok, so why is it ok for Molly to mess with someone's mind now when it's still just as wrong now as when she did it back in PG. That was the first lesson she learned from Harry.

It doesn't matter how much it could possibly make Harry feel better, she knows that the ending outcome would hurt her relationship with Harry.

Molly has always had her own ideas, that is why her slide into warlockhood is so hard to check.  To begin with she thought she was doing right by her friends when she messed with their heads, causing lots of damage in the process.  Then in Turncoat she was back at it again in an effort to help Harry, though it could have cost them both their heads.  Thus if she thinks she is helping Harry by offing Rudolph in some way or making him insane for the duration, she will do it.

[Conspiracy Theorist]

Rudolph already committed suicide in BG and God himself intervened to save him, I doubt that he's going anywhere.

He has to continue to exist as an annoying Karma Houdini that Dresden isn't allowed to kill like the rest of his enemies to maximize Harry's suffering you see.

Rudolph wasn’t saved for his benefit, but for Harry’s, to prevent Harry from becoming a murdering monster over such an inconsequential piece of crap. Harry is important, Rudolph isn’t.