Could Harry be the next White King?

[Bad Alias]

I was thinking of when Lara first showed up in BR and Harry didn't initially recognize her being White Court because she used her married name for her porn star persona. Implication being the husband hadn't lasted long, but she kept the name as an alias.

My guess on that was Lord Raith arranged a marriage back in the day. The marriage didn't last past the wedding night.

So Harry may not rule, but I still think being husband to the new leader would grant him a certain power. 

He's going to at least have the soft power that being close a leader always gives someone.

[groinkick]

My guess on that was Lord Raith arranged a marriage back in the day. The marriage didn't last past the wedding night.

I wonder if she'd been a virgin, and that was her first kill?  Also I remember in an earlier book her father brought up a doctor she was with (I think), and she seemed upset by it.  I'm wondering if there is more to her.  Could some of ther coldness be a mask she needs to wear because if she shows weakness it could get her killed?  Maybe she does have a good side.

[Bad Alias]

I wonder if she'd been a virgin, and that was her first kill?

That's what I'm thinking.

Also I remember in an earlier book her father brought up a doctor she was with (I think), and she seemed upset by it.

BR when Inari was injured. I read that as Lord Raith didn't value mortals much at all beyond food. Lara did. I think this is born out in WN when Harry shows up to Raith Manor and somebody has been listening to mortal advice. The somebody is pretty obviously Lara.

Could some of ther coldness be a mask she needs to wear because if she shows weakness it could get her killed?  Maybe she does have a good side.

I kind of do think she's a lot more "good" or "human" than Lord Raith or maybe even the typical White Court vampire, but still much less so than Thomas was before Shagnasty got a hold of him. But I didn't get that from that scene.

[morriswalters]

Unlikely. Mab does not give her knight in marriage to get eaten and Molly would be furious. The alliance would not survive it.

It doesn't matter if Harry actually gets eaten. But that is still his status. Any power he achieves comes from Lara.  Kill her and the alliance is moot in any case.

[Arjan]

It doesn't matter if Harry actually gets eaten. But that is still his status. Any power he achieves comes from Lara.  Kill her and the alliance is moot in any case.

The point is Harry is not in that marriage just for himself, he represents Winter. That is his status.

[groinkick]

It doesn't matter if Harry actually gets eaten. But that is still his status. Any power he achieves comes from Lara.  Kill her and the alliance is moot in any case.

That could be said for anyone in power.  When someone takes power by force they often eliminate the other leaders supporters, and allies.

Harry's power may be by proxy, but it would still be there.  To challenge Harry is to challenge Lara.  To challenge Lara is to challenge Harry.

[gorgonson]

I just read that section again and it seems to imply Lara requested a binding alliance with Winter and that she be allowed to court Harry and possibly Mab jumped to marriage quite possibly to stick it to Molly at the same time she cemented a deal with the White Court.

[BrainFireBob]

That's what I'm thinking.
BR when Inari was injured. I read that as Lord Raith didn't value mortals much at all beyond food. Lara did. I think this is born out in WN when Harry shows up to Raith Manor and somebody has been listening to mortal advice. The somebody is pretty obviously Lara.
I kind of do think she's a lot more "good" or "human" than Lord Raith or maybe even the typical White Court vampire, but still much less so than Thomas was before Shagnasty got a hold of him. But I didn't get that from that scene.

I'd guess that it's the wedding ring that gave her a scar, too. Truly loved her husband. And that's why Thomas trusts her.

[Bad Alias]

I'd guess that it's the wedding ring that gave her a scar, too. Truly loved her husband. And that's why Thomas trusts her.

But if she truly loved the husband, he wasn't her first.

[BrainFireBob]

What are you basing that on, Mira?

We're talking a 16th century wedding.

[CrusherJen]

But if she truly loved the husband, he wasn't her first.

If the potential White Court vamp is in love with the first person they sleep with, it can kill the inner vamp and leave them human. It's what both Thomas and Harry hoped would happen with Inara, back in Blood Rites.

So Lara couldn't have been in love with the first person she slept with; if that were true, she wouldn't be White Court. She might have fallen in love with someone else afterwards, but by then it would be too late to be anything other than a vampire.

[BrainFireBob]

If the potential White Court vamp is in love with the first person they sleep with, it can kill the inner vamp and leave them human. It's what both Thomas and Harry hoped would happen with Inara, back in Blood Rites.

So Lara couldn't have been in love with the first person she slept with; if that were true, she wouldn't be White Court. She might have fallen in love with someone else afterwards, but by then it would be too late to be anything other than a vampire.

Right. I intended it as "he loved her"- she found out on her wedding night after she'd killed him he died willingly. My bad. Don't type while talking.

[groinkick]

If the potential White Court vamp is in love with the first person they sleep with, it can kill the inner vamp and leave them human. It's what both Thomas and Harry hoped would happen with Inara, back in Blood Rites.

So Lara couldn't have been in love with the first person she slept with; if that were true, she wouldn't be White Court. She might have fallen in love with someone else afterwards, but by then it would be too late to be anything other than a vampire.

Not if the man she loved cheated on her.  I believe it requires mutual love, not just from one.

[Bad Alias]

If the potential White Court vamp is in love with the first person they sleep with, it can kill the inner vamp and leave them human. It's what both Thomas and Harry hoped would happen with Inara, back in Blood Rites.

So Lara couldn't have been in love with the first person she slept with; if that were true, she wouldn't be White Court. She might have fallen in love with someone else afterwards, but by then it would be too late to be anything other than a vampire.

Which was kinda my point. I also feel like we should distinguish between love and "true love." Jim's specifically said that the relationship has to be that of equals for it to be true love. There's probably plenty of couples that aren't "equal," especially historically.

Not if the man she loved cheated on her.  I believe it requires mutual love, not just from one.

That's another thing. True love has to be mutual.