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Re: What is Lara's problem? [PT Spoilers!]
« Reply #105 on: August 05, 2020, 12:28:09 PM »
One thing that seems a bit odd to me was that Mab threatened Lara not to eat Harry. But maybe that was just normal winter marking territory and not Mab protecting Harry.

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Re: What is Lara's problem? [PT Spoilers!]
« Reply #106 on: August 05, 2020, 12:50:12 PM »
One thing that seems a bit odd to me was that Mab threatened Lara not to eat Harry. But maybe that was just normal winter marking territory and not Mab protecting Harry.

   Practically speaking, Mab needs her Winter Knight.  She doesn't need him fed upon until death, nor does she need him made into pleasure slave.  She needs Harry, even if he is a pain in her ass, to have all his wits about him, hence the warning.

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Re: What is Lara's problem? [PT Spoilers!]
« Reply #107 on: August 05, 2020, 02:51:59 PM »
Just take it literally. The knight is part of her household so why would Mab accept Lara eating Harry when Harry was sent to help Lara? That would not reflect well on Mab.
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Re: What is Lara's problem? [PT Spoilers!]
« Reply #108 on: August 05, 2020, 09:15:33 PM »
Well, she talks about not being in total control of her hunger at the talks, well before she gives most of her energy to Thomas. She should be well-fed then and therefore not have any control issues.
Being well fed doesn't mean all is well. After her first scene, her brother's set to be executed. I wouldn't call that "all's well." She's bound to be emotional.

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« Reply #109 on: August 06, 2020, 08:04:10 AM »
I was just thinking that Nic was a lot more likely to damage her knight that Lara, but he did not get a warning. Then again the situation was of course very different. I just think it is the first time she has ever warned anyone that she will be angry if they did something bad to Harry.

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Re: What is Lara's problem? [PT Spoilers!]
« Reply #110 on: August 06, 2020, 10:05:22 AM »
I was just thinking that Nic was a lot more likely to damage her knight that Lara, but he did not get a warning. Then again the situation was of course very different. I just think it is the first time she has ever warned anyone that she will be angry if they did something bad to Harry.
Lara is a fellow member of the accords and Mab and Lara are allied. Mab does not want Lara to betray her because that would create unwelcome complications and Lara does not want to betray Mab for obvious reasons. Nicodemus betraying Harry too early is no problem for Mab and might give Harry an opportunity to do something.
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Re: What is Lara's problem? [PT Spoilers!]
« Reply #111 on: August 06, 2020, 03:58:40 PM »
I just think it is the first time she has ever warned anyone that she will be angry if they did something bad to Harry.

I think so. But I think part of the issue here is that Nic's favor was pre-specified (help steal the Holy Grail), whereas Lara got two unspecified favors. So without Mab doing this, Lara could have made one of her favors "let me control your mind/consume your life energy" and the Mantle would impede Harry fighting back, I think.

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Re: What is Lara's problem? [PT Spoilers!]
« Reply #112 on: August 06, 2020, 04:23:02 PM »
Remember Mab did some caveats too. "Nothing you wouldn't ask me" and all that.
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« Reply #113 on: August 06, 2020, 04:32:38 PM »
Remember Mab did some caveats too. "Nothing you wouldn't ask me" and all that.

Yeah, exactly. Mab had to be a lot more careful in this case because the favors were open-ended.

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« Reply #114 on: August 06, 2020, 07:24:18 PM »
That is a good point and makes good sense :-)

I love that she cast herself as the bears and Lara as Goldilocks in her threat :-D (I did not get when reading the book, only thinking it over afterwards)

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Re: What is Lara's problem? [PT Spoilers!]
« Reply #115 on: August 06, 2020, 07:51:36 PM »
I did get it when reading the book but I actually found it weird. Specially because Goldilocks is not strictly a fairy tale, which would have been more understandable coming from Mab.
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Re: What is Lara's problem? [PT Spoilers!]
« Reply #116 on: August 06, 2020, 08:23:56 PM »
One thing that seems a bit odd to me was that Mab threatened Lara not to eat Harry. But maybe that was just normal winter marking territory and not Mab protecting Harry.
That's Mab telling Lara that she's loaning a tool, not feeding her dinner.

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« Reply #117 on: August 08, 2020, 12:15:22 AM »
I think Lara’s problem is that she desperately wants to be a mother, but I suspect female Whamps are even less fertile than the males, and the two men she would consider as father material are the two men who won’t sleep with her.

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Re: What is Lara's problem? [PT Spoilers!]
« Reply #118 on: August 08, 2020, 12:32:50 PM »
That could actually be a pretty good point. They won't be with her, but are both with Mab instead.

Just a thought, it would not really have helped Lara to have a favour left at demonreach. When Harry had imprisoned Thomas, what would she do with it? Ask him to take him out and let him die on the beach? She could have avoided Harry using Thomas as leverage after the Fomor fight, but the main advantage of the leverage would be during the Fomor fight anyway.

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Re: What is Lara's problem? [PT Spoilers!]
« Reply #119 on: August 08, 2020, 01:43:19 PM »
But both are as regards their free will, admittedly Harry was backed into a corner.