Author Topic: And Amoracchius goes to... [Peace Talks Spoilers, Battle Ground Speculation]  (Read 11466 times)

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I know some folks think Harry is going to take up Amoracchius.  Others think Thomas will.  But what about in Battle Ground?  Thomas isn't likely to bounce back in a couple of hours, and Harry has the athame to use, so doubling up with Amoracchius seems unlikely to me.

So who else might wield it, if only for a night?  I know no-on has to, but let's speculate on the idea that it's in town and they're going to need all the help they can get.

Michael is heavily injured.  Murphy is heavily injured and also she'd probably be terrified. Daniel is living elsewhere so no second generation from him, and the other Carpenter kids haven't been foreshadowed for any action.

Charity maybe? Probably not Forthill.

Mac?

Marcone?

Imagine a scene where Harry's brought Amoracchius to the battle prep and left it laying on a table, and Marcone touches the hilt absently while explaining to Harry that all he wants is to protect the people in Chicago, and a faint glow emanates from the sheeth?

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What other mortals are around that might take it up? Rawlins? Stallings? Rudolph?  Mike the Mechanic?  Agent Tilly?

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IA investigator short and broad. Why does IA have the case? Divine intervention.

Only things missing for plausibility are:

1) Knowing how to use a sword- and all that takes is Murphy mentioning training with him
2) Mention of pronounced religiosity.

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IA investigator short and broad. Why does IA have the case? Divine intervention.

Only things missing for plausibility are:

1) Knowing how to use a sword- and all that takes is Murphy mentioning training with him
2) Mention of pronounced religiosity.
I'm not sure pronounced religiosity is a requirement, seeing as the standards seem to be "decent person doing good".

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Amorrachius seems more scarcely used.

One assumes love is a harder concept to find an embodiment for- Michael's embrace of traditional charity via religion- love for fellow man- is probably his foot in the door.

An uber-Catholic cop in Chicago, that loves the people of his city as a defining trait, is not an impossible trope to call on- and Butcher loves putting his own stamp on traditional tropes.

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I could buy that. But is a short scene at the beginning of the book enough of an intro for someone that would be taking up the sword permanently based on their love for duty and city? 

Still, the Love aspect needing to be relevant is important.  And Murphy being in True Love is the only thing...

Wait a minute.

This book was the most we ever saw of Lara being human-adjacent and loving/caring.  Is it possible that *she* could take up the sword, if only for one night?  Love for a child made Susan worthy for a night. Lara feeling the love for Thomas and being in a self-sacrificing mood might do it.

And can you imagine the scene where Eb sees a wamp queen take up a Sword of the Cross?  :o

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I could buy that. But is a short scene at the beginning of the book enough of an intro for someone that would be taking up the sword permanently based on their love for duty and city? 

Still, the Love aspect needing to be relevant is important.  And Murphy being in True Love is the only thing...

Wait a minute.

This book was the most we ever saw of Lara being human-adjacent and loving/caring.  Is it possible that *she* could take up the sword, if only for one night?  Love for a child made Susan worthy for a night. Lara feeling the love for Thomas and being in a self-sacrificing mood might do it.

And can you imagine the scene where Eb sees a wamp queen take up a Sword of the Cross?  :o

 As good a guess as any.

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Could Lara be trusted with a sword, though, even just for the night?

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Could Lara be trusted with a sword, though, even just for the night?
Any more or less than Murphy?

Maybe to a point.  Anyone who really understands love, right?  Maybe not passionate love, but sibling love? 

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Definitely less than Murphy.

Murphy made a sword vulnerable by mistake.

Lara has extremely strong motives to want to see the Sword of Love destroyed on purpose. Love is the White Court's Bane -- their kryptonite. Putting the ruler of the White Court in a position to destroy one of the greatest weapons against her and her court is a big, big temptation.

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I'm not sure pronounced religiosity is a requirement, seeing as the standards seem to be "decent person doing good".

Yeah, supposedly Sanya is an atheist.

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Sanya believes in Hope as a former Denarian

Butters believes in Faith his succession of carreers to make the world better

Michael believes in Love, of god, his fellow man and his wife and family

Thomas has real painful experience of True Love

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I do think Thomas will *eventually* take up the sword, but I'm not sure he's ready yet, although...

One of the theories of the English Prisoner is that he's Arthur, and it's believed that Amoracchius was Excalibur. And it seems like Harry set it up so Thomas and the English Prisoner could talk, in a place where not even Anduriel can listen in.

Perhaps one of them (Arthur or Thomas) will be taking up Excalibur soon.

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Does it have to be a fully human mortal?

In Skin Game, we saw Nic giving a coin to Blood on His Soul (aka the Genoskwa) and offering one to Grey.

Could River Shoulders take up the sword for a bit?

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Why not Goodman Grey? We don't know his full motives, but he has stated doing things for a 'good cause'.

Does it have to be a fully human mortal?

In Skin Game, we saw Nic giving a coin to Blood on His Soul (aka the Genoskwa) and offering one to Grey.

Could River Shoulders take up the sword for a bit?

Now I'm imagining bigfoot wielding a glowing toothpick.  :o
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It would look like one of those plastic cocktail swords in his hands. My guess is that River is going to play a role shielding Harry whilst he gets in close.