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[belgarion]

Calm. Calm. /*tries to soothe Tsu*/
You're right. We know we have a scaling problem.
On the Calderon location, north and south, there are some inconsistencies in the books. We talked about the valley's location but haven't resolved that issue. We'll be talking about it further.


Mikey

Jupp, it's a know issue, we've already decided to make it smaller during our Map-Chat session.

I just haven't gotten around to incorporating these changes yet. I hope to find the time this weekend.

Plus:
Ahhhh... SCALE !! AAAHHHHAAHHHH *runs away screaming in panic*


 

[Tsunami]

Ok, it took a while, but here is the Updated version of the map.

http://www.musterpuffer.de/JB/codex/alera.jpg

@Fellow Map chat participants: If i missed anything, please let me know. (I bet i did, i always do :-) )

Its a basic version, no occupations and or major destructions have been included. I will post individual Maps for those.

So there will be a map for CuF and CaF showing Canim territory, and there will be one for PF showing croach spread.
Once i have finished them *g*

[Priscellie]

This looks fabulous!  There's still the issue of Aquitaine needing to be one of the "Northern" cities, but this is a definite move in the right direction.  Well done, all!


Here's a loaded question for you guys:  If you could ask Jim any questions that would help you nail down Alera's geography, what would you want to know?

[Brightbane]

Would it be cheating to ask him to put a detailed map in the next book?

[belgarion]

I echo Priscellie, looks great! 

One of the things we talked about was whether to include the towns mentioned in the retreat in PF on the main map if we don't have the detailed towns for the other books in Alera as well, like CaF towns. If we have the towns shown in the detailed maps, we probably don't need Uvarton, Marsford, etc. shown in the big map. Otherwise, we need to add towns, like Vaucusgard,
Mastings, etc.

Aquitaine is still an issue as Priscellie pointed out. We talked about his placement without resolution. Possibly, First Lord's fury will resolve the issue for us. (I hope).

We also talked about showing "the Vale", of course, we couldn't resolve it's size or placement, that's a known issue also. We know it's fairly large but the exact size is still under debate.

The Calderon Valley is more to scale in this one and that's good. I'm a little bothered by the look of the valley. Right now, it looks like it and the Garrison are in Marat territory . I don't get that impression from FoC, and we did talk about that during the chat.

We'll keep working at it.

Mikey

Ok, it took a while, but here is the Updated version of the map.

http://www.musterpuffer.de/JB/codex/alera.jpg

@Fellow Map chat participants: If i missed anything, please let me know. (I bet i did, i always do :-) )

Its a basic version, no occupations and or major destructions have been included. I will post individual Maps for those.

So there will be a map for CuF and CaF showing Canim territory, and there will be one for PF showing croach spread.
Once i have finished them *g*

[Tsunami]

Well, the Valley is "past the isthmus..." so it has to be on the other side. Marat Territory begins on the eastern side of the Mountains. And Garrison is on the end of the Valley. It's a border fortification, so in my mind it fits.

I'll take a look at the other aspects later today, gotta get to work now.

[Palantir2]

Thanks. When the First Lord's Fury comes out in November, we'll be able to finish up the maps (I hope) and add in all the little details that pop up, like the colors.

Mikey

Antillus is Blue and White, confirmed last couple pages of PF.  So my guess was wrong :-P

[Chianacat]

You all have done an amazing job on mapping!  Looks awesome!

[Tsunami]

Ok, here are some maps showing different states, or aspects.

1. The Vale
www.musterpuffer.de/JB/codex/alera-vale.jpg
The green shaded section marks the Amaranth Vale. I think that size and placement was the closest we could find to a "consensus".

2. CuF
www.musterpuffer.de/JB/codex/alera-CuF.jpg
The red Area marks territory controlled by the Canim.
The green Arrows show troop movement in CuF. It's not a hundred percent accurate, since the information sometimes is inconsistent.

3. The Vord (Alera & Canea)
www.musterpuffer.de/JB/codex/alera-vord.jpg
I guess this one is pretty much self-explanatory. It's the state at the end of PF.

[belgarion]

I know what I forgot to mention. It was bothering me last night. "The Ruins of Appia" should be on the map as well.


Mikey

[kokolores]

I doubt the Vord have overrun quite so much. They've pretty much concentrated their forces to overwhelm the Aleran legions so they shouldn't have expanded all that much in the other directions. They have Kalare's former territories and a long thin corridor from Ceres to Alera Imperia.

[Tsunami]

I doubt the Vord have overrun quite so much. They've pretty much concentrated their forces to overwhelm the Aleran legions so they shouldn't have expanded all that much in the other directions. They have Kalare's former territories and a long thin corridor from Ceres to Alera Imperia.

Well, in the epilogue of PF it says:

He gestured at the sand table. Isana came over to it and saw a map of the entire Realm laid out
in the sand.
A quarter of it, perhaps more, was colored in croach green.

So i think it more or less fits.

[MacsNewBrew]

Would it be cheating to ask him to put a detailed map in the next book?

In the Q&A at the Dayton signing for Turn Coat, Jim said the FLF will have a map. Also of note is that he said the work done here in this thread is outstanding and he (or the artist) is using it as a reference

[kokolores]

nice. I'd love to see how many of our ideas will actually end up being used.

[belgarion]

nice. I'd love to see how many of our ideas will actually end up being used.

Me too! It's cool to know Jim has looked at our work. Let's see, April to Dec. Oh man, that's a long time.

Mikey