Nope, I supposed whatever boost they did get was not as much as the WK, I did that, did you read it?
I did, in fact. I also answered why I thought the idea did not make logical sense to me.
In short, the Winter Knight is a mortal gifted with a small portion of the power that the Winter Queens, including the Ladies, have full access to. Ergo, it does not make any sense to me -- based on what's been seen and stated in the books and stories -- that the Ladies would be less powerful than the Knight.
I also directly said in the Files, to point out my lack of knowledge on cold case, not having really read it. Not that it matters, cause I then posited the boost was not greater than the WK's, and that WK incorporated knew this? Clearly that is one point you will just repetitively ignore because it directly through in book context, negates your little debate over nothing...
What, exactly, is "WK incorporated"? To my knowledge that is not a term from the books, but you've twice referred to it as if it's an authoritative source.
I could also proceed to point out how, specifically, as the Knight is a part of the queen they are vulnerable to the knight himself but you'll still argue .
"Vulnerable to" is not the same as "weaker than."
Maeve was vulnerable to Murphy's headshot. Does that mean that Murphy could overpower Maeve? No.
Harry is vulnerable to iron wielded by pixies. Does that mean the pixies can overpower him? No.
Are the Queens vulnerable to the Winter Knight? Apparently so. Does that mean he can take one of them on in a direct test of strength? No.
Based on the power displayed by the Ladies and the Queens in the books, I can only conclude that Harry would lose any such direct confrontation.
make no mistake, I refuse to reply to your silly one upmanship because you've proven repetitively that's all you want.
Nope. I'm simply stating a case. Pointing out the implications of the things you've stated is not "silly one upmanship." I have no interest in "on upmanship." I am interested in making my points clear.
Even you rebuttal to Maeve's ploy.. it's what she did you thinking its stupid is less than negligible
It appears you misunderstood my point. Let me restate it, for clarity's sake:
You don't induce an enemy to want to rape and murder you, then literally latch onto him, if you have any inkling that he's actually going to be able to do so.
The bolded bit is the important point. Maeve drawing Harry in -- while he is armed and obviously intends to do her violence -- is an indication that Maeve has confidence that she can and will be able to stop Harry from whatever it is he or the Mantle wants to do.
I think Maeve -- who has been Winter Lady and worked with dozens if not hundreds of Winter Knights over the course of 1000 years (and who has probably killed more than a few of them personally) -- has a better idea of the relative capabilities of the Lady and Knight mantles than Harry -- who, at that point, had been on the job less than 24 hours and still needs other people to explain his own limitations to him.
especially sense the scene itself proved the WK impulse is not to kill the Lady but to rape her... now proceed with the previous status quoi and ignore me while I add you to this ignore list too.
I'd have to check my copy of the book to be certain (I only have PDFs up through Ghost Story), but I'm reasonably sure Harry's inner monologue when he gives in to the Winter Knight mantle includes desires to kill Maeve.
But back to the issue at hand, I think it's evident that neither Harry nor Molly want or would want to go that route at this point in the books.
Dresden has, to my recollection, never stated that he wants to pursue romance with Molly -- his current romantic aims being directed instead at Murphy -- so until he does, his previous, repeated and very firm denials of the prospect stand.
Molly now knows that any attempt to have sex with a man will result in her being put in a state of blind, black-out fury as the Mantle seeks to at the very least maim the object of her affections. Molly obviously does not want to subject a man she loves, admires and respects to the fury of the nigh-godly mantle -- she was already devastated when it happened to Ramirez.
Further, even if she could be fully overpowered and restrained such that she could not harm her prospective partner, it would still destroy the mantle. The mantle is one of the pillars of the mortal world and represents a job that Molly said is important and worth doing, so she obviously wouldn't want it destroyed.
To dip into speculation here, we have no idea what would happen to Molly if the mantle is destroyed while she's holding it, but I doubt the destruction of such an old, powerful and important mantle would be harmless to its wielder.
Finally, even if the Winter Knight has some kind of loophole that would prevent the Mantle's destruction, Molly would spend the act blacked out and completely without control, meaning she couldn't even remember or enjoy it, even if we put aside the question of ongoing consent.
So from Harry's perspective, he is simply not interested. From Molly's perspective, getting busy with Harry presents huge risks to herself, her partner and the fabric of reality, with no real benefit to her even if those risks don't manifest -- and, as Kindler points out,
she doesn't seem to be too interested in the prospect at this point either.
Therefore, I respectfully posit that -- until proven otherwise by the text of the books -- Harry dipping his blasting rod into Molly's winter wellspring is not in the cards.
