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Offline WereElephant

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Pea Stalks - Will this Character Die?
« on: April 19, 2018, 05:45:53 PM »
To the point: will Mab die in Peace Talks?

I've seen some posts here and on reddit recently that suggest Peace Talks is where things will really start falling apart in terms of magical world order. Nothing quote worthy, but it's making me wonder what events would cause absolute devastation (not decimation) on world stability. One of them would be Mab's death as a result of a Fomor plot. A new and inexperienced Winter Queen would appear (Molly), and we'd get a new Winter Lady (unknown). It would also be an utterly crushing blow to the image of Winter, and embolden every element who despise them.

Truthfully, I hope it doesn't happen. Partly because it seems too soon after Cold Days, and partly because I like Mab. Cold, ruthless, calculating, and relentless, while serving roles of both ally and menace to our protagonist. She also has an admirable track record of successful plans hatched. However, my preferences aside, it would really tear things up.

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Re: Pea Stalks - Will this Character Die?
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2018, 05:52:49 PM »
Die?  I don't really think so.  If this was the last book before the BAT I'd say it's much more likely but there will be Mirror Mirror, and then the Wrestling book which I think will have Mab in it because of the nature of the book.
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Re: Pea Stalks - Will this Character Die?
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2018, 06:01:54 PM »
Quote from: groinkick on April 19, 2018, 05:52:49 PM
Die?  I don't really think so.  If this was the last book before the BAT I'd say it's much more likely but there will be Mirror Mirror, and then the Wrestling book which I think will have Mab in it because of the nature of the book.

I'm only just hearing about a Wrestling book. Is this from a recent interview or something?
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Re: Pea Stalks - Will this Character Die?
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2018, 06:17:05 PM »
Quote from: WereElephant on April 19, 2018, 06:01:54 PM
I'm only just hearing about a Wrestling book. Is this from a recent interview or something?

It's been known for a while.  There are gods (Greek pantheon I think) that are still around but instead of getting power from worship they get it from fans as pro wrestlers.  They have taken notice of Dresden for knocking over Ares shed (Must mean Hades vault, but it's what Jim said).  Don't know much more than that.
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Stole this from Reginald because it was so well put, and is true for me as well.

"I love this place. It was a beacon in the dark and I couldn't have made it through some of the most maddening years of my life without some great people here."  Thank you Griff and others who took up the torch.

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Re: Pea Stalks - Will this Character Die?
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2018, 06:32:09 PM »
Vote me in on that she lives.  Killing Fairy Queens(Ladies) has happened a lot.

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I know he couldn't be because he was already passed over in Cold Days (cup not big enough or being a guy) but could you imagine Jim's delight about Harry becoming the Winter Lady. 

Cold Case (Molly WL POV) Spoiler
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Re: Pea Stalks - Will this Character Die?
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2018, 06:42:17 PM »
Quote from: Lost Merlin on April 19, 2018, 06:32:09 PM
Vote me in on that she lives.  Killing Fairy Queens(Ladies) has happened a lot.

EDIT:
I know he couldn't be because he was already passed over in Cold Days (cup not big enough or being a guy) but could you imagine Jim's delight about Harry becoming the Winter Lady. 

Cold Case (Molly WL POV) Spoiler
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LOL

It just occurred to me that maybe that would lessen the blow to Charity and Michael when they find out.
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Re: Pea Stalks - Will this Character Die?
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2018, 06:51:25 PM »
Quote from: WereElephant on April 19, 2018, 06:42:17 PM
It just occurred to me that maybe that would lessen the blow to Charity and Michael when they find out.

Ha! This would be a humorous scene to read. 

WL Molly: Mom, Dad, I need to tell you something. 
M and C share a pointed look. 
WL Molly: I am the Winter Lady
M: Thank the Heavens, We thought you might be pregnant. 
WL Molly: Pregnant!? No way, I can't even have sex!
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Re: Pea Stalks - Will this Character Die?
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2018, 11:17:38 PM »
Quote from: Lost Merlin on April 19, 2018, 06:51:25 PM
Ha! This would be a humorous scene to read. 

WL Molly: Mom, Dad, I need to tell you something. 
M and C share a pointed look. 
WL Molly: I am the Winter Lady
M: Thank the Heavens, We thought you might be pregnant.  (With Harry's love child)
WL Molly: Pregnant!? No way, I can't even have sex!
I did a minor alteration for dramatic effect.
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Re: Pea Stalks - Will this Character Die?
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2018, 02:50:33 PM »
Quote from: wardenferry419 on April 19, 2018, 11:17:38 PM
(With Harry's love child)

First of all, love it.

Second of all, interesting point. Is Harry under a similar limitation now as she is? Is he still capable of the act, but rendered sterile while under the Mantle?
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Re: Pea Stalks - Will this Character Die?
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2018, 03:28:12 PM »
Quote from: WereElephant on April 20, 2018, 02:50:33 PM
First of all, love it.

Second of all, interesting point. Is Harry under a similar limitation now as she is? Is he still capable of the act, but rendered sterile while under the Mantle?
Why would he be?

It's the Lady that is specifically NOT a mother. There's nothing about the Knight's fatherhood (thankfully, since, you know, Harry has kids).
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Re: Pea Stalks - Will this Character Die?
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2018, 03:52:53 PM »
Slate was pretty much confirmed to be a rapist, yeah?  I'd say that Harry is certainly capable of having sex, at the minimum.
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Re: Pea Stalks - Will this Character Die?
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2018, 04:42:34 PM »
Quote from: Avernite on April 20, 2018, 03:28:12 PM
Why would he be?

It's the Lady that is specifically NOT a mother. There's nothing about the Knight's fatherhood (thankfully, since, you know, Harry has kids).

I haven't read the short story in question, so while I know of Molly's limitation, wasn't clear on the full details. That makes sense then.
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Re: Pea Stalks - Will this Character Die?
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2018, 10:17:11 PM »
Has any prior WK ever fathered a child?
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Re: Pea Stalks - Will this Character Die?
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2018, 11:23:04 PM »
Gilles de Rais had one child, Marie.

Note that most of the names we have for Winter Knights are serial killers of children.
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Re: Pea Stalks - Will this Character Die?
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2018, 01:10:15 AM »
Well, Mab does try to recruit the worst of the worst.
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