Who will die in Peace Talks but return in Mirror Mirror? Theories

[Lost Merlin]

do you think if he hands it to Harry then Harry will be obligated to return it to Mother Winter?

[Rasins]

do you think if he hands it to Harry then Harry will be obligated to return it to Mother Winter?

No.  I think he will eventually give it to her, but obligated?  No.  Then again it depends on the deal that was made that got it into Humanity's hands in the first place.

Then again, we don't know HOW the Blackstaff (the staff, not the office) chooses it's wielder.  Jim has said it picks.  So even if Eb hands it to Harry, Harry may not keep it.

[Lost Merlin]

could you imagine the deal he could get out of Mother Winter if he offered to trade it back to her. 

[Rasins]

could you imagine the deal he could get out of Mother Winter if he offered to trade it back to her.

I suppose that could be the mechanism by which Harry gets out of the WK mantle without being killed.

[groinkick]

could you imagine the deal he could get out of Mother Winter if he offered to trade it back to her.

Her response might be "It is now your curse to bear", with an eerie smile.

[peregrine]

I said "The Red Court could make a return with her as it's Queen."  I meant that in Harry's realm if Susan returned with him she could restart the Red Court.  She would be the oldest since she'd be the first of the new Red Court.  With everyone's focus being on the Fomor she'd be able to turn a lot of people into Red Court vamps without being noticed.

Except that apparently there has to be something done for Rampires to be able to turn them.  Bianca's ceremony wasn't purely ceremonial.  So again, issues of the youngest Rampire come back.

[wardenferry419]

Most would assume Harry as next Blackstaff; but, a better spin would be for Carlos to get it.

[groinkick]

Except that apparently there has to be something done for Rampires to be able to turn them.  Bianca's ceremony wasn't purely ceremonial.  So again, issues of the youngest Rampire come back.

If Susan was turned in the alternate timeline, by the time of Mirror Mirror she'd have been a full vamp for how long? 10 years?  15?  Susan could be a powerful vamp in that period of time depending on how ambitious she was, and how often she fed.  Bianca's ceremony was her being elevated in status, nothing to do with turning anyone to a vamp.  I doubt that after that period of time Susan would have any difficulty turning anyone.

[groinkick]

Most would assume Harry as next Blackstaff; but, a better spin would be for Carlos to get it.

Molly

[peregrine]

If Susan was turned in the alternate timeline, by the time of Mirror Mirror she'd have been a full vamp for how long? 10 years?  15?  Susan could be a powerful vamp in that period of time depending on how ambitious she was, and how often she fed.  Bianca's ceremony was her being elevated in status, nothing to do with turning anyone to a vamp.  I doubt that after that period of time Susan would have any difficulty turning anyone.

Jim said that there WAS something to do with turning someone into a vampire.  That Ortega was there in order to do something.  He didn't specify what, but there's some kind of difference it makes.  Admittedly, I can't find the exact quote, but hopefully someone else can at least confirm it exists.

Update: Turns out I was thinking of something from the RPG, which is as canon as you want it to be.

Bianca’s promotion to the nobility was both a legal one and a metaphysical one—that’s why Duke Ortega was there: to let her taste of his blood, giving her the power and the authority to make new spawn.

[groinkick]

Jim said that there WAS something to do with turning someone into a vampire.  That Ortega was there in order to do something.  He didn't specify what, but there's some kind of difference it makes.  Admittedly, I can't find the exact quote, but hopefully someone else can at least confirm it exists.

Update: Turns out I was thinking of something from the RPG, which is as canon as you want it to be.

Well as I said before.  A lot of time had passed, Susan could also have climbed the ranks.  Bianca did because of her desire to get revenge motivated her.  Susan was an ambitious, driven, and intelligent woman.  Combine that with a Red Court demon and you have someone who can go places, fast.  I think she was a lot like Harry's mom.

[wardenferry419]

Mother issues and the women that sons date. Alot could be said there. Similarly, much could be said about father issues and the men that daughters date.

[groinkick]

Mother issues and the women that sons date. Alot could be said there. Similarly, much could be said about father issues and the men that daughters date.

Harry, and Murphy....  Or Harry, and Molly? 

[wardenferry419]

Both pairings.

[Rasins]

I suspect that the only thing preventing Rampires from propagating is political.  I think the Rampire King didn't want TOO many Rampires running around eating all the food, especially the ones who couldn't control their hungers.

I think Ortega was there more as an official representative for the King, bestowing his blessings.