Government involvement *spoiler*

[groinkick]

In the graphic novel Dog Men it was confirmed that the government does at times kill supernatural members of the community...  Not just kill but exterminate entire groups.  Listen's to Wind's words do indicate that 1.  They don't officially exist. 2.  They don't know what they are really up against.

The agents within the story do appear to be like the Men in Black in that they don't believe humanity can handle what's really out there.

[Rasins]

Sounds like the X-Files to me.

[Griffyn612]

Dude, the thread title is literally a spoiler.

[groinkick]

Dude, the thread title is literally a spoiler.

Changed it.  Well I mean it wasn't some big secret in the story, it's there pretty much early on so I didn't think it was a huge deal.  The spoiler tag was because I included information from Listen's to Wind, the fact that it's more like extermination, the book it was from, and other information.

[forumghost]

The gist is that the MiB exist, and are run by Muggle Supremacists.

That's typical. Why can't the Government ever put non-assholes in charge of these groups?

Seriously though, I actually really liked that in the original Movie the MiB were a bunch of reasonable, relatively normal people that actually should be managing such things instead of the stereotypical fanatics that usually exist in fictional groups like that.

[Mr. Death]

The gist is that the MiB exist, and are run by Muggle Supremacists.

That's typical. Why can't the Government ever put non-assholes in charge of these groups?

Seriously though, I actually really liked that in the original Movie the MiB were a bunch of reasonable, relatively normal people that actually should be managing such things instead of the stereotypical fanatics that usually exist in fictional groups like that.

Don't look up the original comics, then.

[groinkick]

The gist is that the MiB exist, and are run by Muggle Supremacists.

That's typical. Why can't the Government ever put non-assholes in charge of these groups?

Seriously though, I actually really liked that in the original Movie the MiB were a bunch of reasonable, relatively normal people that actually should be managing such things instead of the stereotypical fanatics that usually exist in fictional groups like that.

We saw a very small glimpse of them.  Two agents leading a team.  They came on as a pain in the ass but ended up not being too bad.  I'd say they felt like a combination of Murphy, and Marcone from the earlier books.  They do appear dangerous, and possibly willing to cross the line but also that they are trying to do the right thing.

[Talby16]

Quick question: Where in the time line does Dog Men land? Harry's exposure to government agents aware of and meddling in the supernatural world has definite series impact.

[Snark Knight]

Quick question: Where in the time line does Dog Men land? Harry's exposure to government agents aware of and meddling in the supernatural world has definite series impact.

After Wild Card but before Changes. Probably not super far before Changes.

[Talby16]

Thanks. May put a new spin on Harry's interactions with Agent Tilly.

[Simon Hogwood]

Personally I thought they resembled nobody as much as the Monster Control Bureau from the Monster Hunter International series, but I might just still be disappointed that there wasn't an obvious Dresden reference it Jim's Monster Hunter Files story.

[TheJrade]

I might be speaking blasphemy here, but I really didn't like Dog Men.

I didn't like that suddenly Harry has a fiery temper, the story was meant to take place long before he received the Mantle of the Winter Knight but yet here he was getting furiously angry at the drop of a hat.

I also didn't like the government guys and hope they are not intended to represent the 'official' reaction to the supernatural.  While a part of me will always been amused by the thought that The Man is incompetent, I prefer that it be kept to the occasional Blues Brothers-style police car pileup.  The idea that the width and breadth of the government's task force on monsters is a handful of national guardsmen who walk through the forest shoulder-to-shoulder without even a vague approximation of the right gear for the job.

[Snark Knight]

I might be speaking blasphemy here, but I really didn't like Dog Men.
I didn't like that suddenly Harry has a fiery temper, the story was meant to take place long before he received the Mantle of the Winter Knight but yet here he was getting furiously angry at the drop of a hat.

Lash did kind of amp up his anger, but in the novels he was supposed to have got a handle on that once he realized he was being influenced.

[RobReece]

I didn't like that suddenly Harry has a fiery temper, the story was meant to take place long before he received the Mantle of the Winter Knight but yet here he was getting furiously angry at the drop of a hat.

Do you remember the little bit of sunshine in Molly's face, or Harry slagging the trash can?
If you'll remember, Harry had been having significant anger issues since he picked up Lasciel's coin.  I don't know where 'Dog Men' falls in the timeline, but even without that issue, he's always had a bit of a temper.

[Griffyn612]

The timeline on the site puts Wild Card between White Night and Turn Coat, which means the imprint that was amplifying his anger should be gone. 

But I got the impression that Harry was angry in DoM because of the events in WC, and that he was dealing with the fallout from Puck. That his encounter with Puck was seriously impactful to his psyche.

It doesn't fit all that well with the books, but it's not impossible.  When we see him in SmF, he's dealing with the guilt over Lash. 

From a story arc perspective, if DT was 2/08, WC was 4/08, and DoM was 6/08, then they could have another comic set in 8/08 that would let him come to terms with all those events before SmF in 11/08.  But he'd need closure on Puck, to explain his lack of fixation in SmF.