Grey Council Members Poll Yet Again, Mortals Only

[peregrine]

Once again, let's talk Grey Council Members.  Who do you think is on it, likely to be on it, or might be on it?  So far the confirmed members are Harry, Eb, and Odin.  Jim has said that we've met 6 others who are as yet not confirmed.  This poll is solely for the Mortals, so wizards and vanilla only.  No fae, no demons, no shapeshifters or whatnot.  They will be coming later.

I will probably be missing several strong candidates, so feel free to chime in with other options. 

[Quantus]

I always run into a wall on the question of "Who is doing the Recruiting?"  McCoy has less contacts and more grudges, but if he's taking cues from Vadderung there are more options. 

I see LTW and Liberty being on there, not Rashid (Harry trusts him a lot more than McCoy seems to).  Luccio yes being McCoy's successor as Capt of the Wardens, but not Steed or Ramirez.  And really none of the other known mortals around, McCoy doesnt really have any specific need of them or reason to trust them.

[wardenferry419]

Well, Liberty is known for having lots of intel gathering ability; maybe through a network of contacts?

[knnn]

I vote for "Cowl".    Technically he's someone we met.   

[Quantus]

Well, Liberty is known for having lots of intel gathering ability; maybe through a network of contacts?

Yup, that, specifically.  She's got all kinds of contacts in the mortal world and the NN.

What kind of magic does Martha Liberty specialize in?
Thaumaturgy, specifically information-gathering. She’s got legions of contacts in the Nevernever and the mortal world alike.

[Rasins]

I voted for Martha and Luccio.

LTW wasn't there, he was (supposedly) sick in Edinburgh.  If it weren't for that, I'd include him too.

I don't think Langtry would be willing to take Eb's leadership, so he's out.

[Quantus]

LTW wasn't there, he was (supposedly) sick in Edinburgh.  If it weren't for that, I'd include him too.

Good Point.  Only thing I can think is the possibility that Injun Joe learned what the stakes were (ie McCoy's likely Death via Curse) and pulled something out of a bunghole that let him take the field (maybe a SC version of the Bear Belt-buckle, for example).  It was the kind of Day for cashing in Favors; Eb did with that army, maybe LTW did something too.

[Rasins]

Good Point.  Only thing I can think is the possibility that Injun Joe learned what the stakes were (ie McCoy's likely Death via Curse) and pulled something out of a bunghole that let him take the field (maybe a SC version of the Bear Belt-buckle, for example).  It was the kind of Day for cashing in Favors; Eb did with that army, maybe LTW did something too.

Could be.  Also it could have been bad intelligence on Harry's part.  Shell game by Steed/Luccio.

[Quantus]

Could be.  Also it could have been bad intelligence on Harry's part.  Shell game by Steed/Luccio.

I thought that at first too, but the LTW intel came from McCoy right after he found out he had a granddaughter and had changed his tune to encouraging Harry.  I dont think there would have been any need for subterfuge by then, especially given they used Magic Stones rather than interceptable letters.

[Rasins]

Unless McCoy had bad intelligence too.

[Quantus]

Unless McCoy had bad intelligence too.

If an SC member, and the Blackstaff to boot, were THAT misinformed about a major crisis at the Council HQ, we have MUCH bigger problems than anyone guessed.

[Rasins]

If an SC member, and the Blackstaff to boot, were THAT misinformed about a major crisis at the Council HQ, we have MUCH bigger problems than anyone guessed.

Sounds like a Harry situation to me.

[Quantus]

Sounds like a Harry situation to me.

Heh, well yes I suppose it does fall into the "worst possible outcomes" category, which make it likely all on it's own.

[Rasins]

AND, it's possible that Peabody wasn't alone, working for the Rampires.  He just go caught.  Bad information can still be given and honestly received.

[Rasins]

Listening to the end of Turn Coat now, and I'm convinced that Eb knows and likes Ramirez.  While it's not conclusive, we know that Ramirez suspects a Black Council as well (from Dead Beat).  So I could see Eb choosing him for the Grey Council as well.