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Spoilers: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« on: December 28, 2017, 09:33:45 PM »
I realize this board is for discussion about Dresden Files.  There however is links between DF and Star Wars in the role of hidden familial relationships and ongoing allusions to the Star Wars universe within the Dresden Files.  So, going forward any discussion about the movie and speculation concerning it will be spoiled and I ask that you include spoiler tags too to safeguard the errant wanderer that doesn't get the clue in the title.

So, here goes my theory:
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Re: Spoilers: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2017, 11:33:32 PM »
You've actually seen TLJ, right? The parentage question was answered in the actual movie.

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Re: Spoilers: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2017, 12:17:28 AM »
For many, the answer was found to be lacking.
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Re: Spoilers: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2017, 12:32:35 AM »
Yeah. You actually believed it [that the parentage question was answered]?  I don't buy it. 

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Re: Spoilers: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2017, 12:57:47 AM »
I am not saying I believe it. In fact, I don't want to believe it. It goes against the grain of Star Wars being the Skywalker saga. But, I suspect that it will be so in order to appease certain non-plot related needs.
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Re: Spoilers: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2017, 01:13:18 AM »
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I stumbled on an article about the expanded universe and new movies.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/what-the-force-awakens-borrowed-from-the-old-star-wars-1749328107

Read this.  As someone who is familiar with EU cited in the passage, it's why I'm still speculating about her parents and not accepting the answer that others do in The Last Jedi.
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So, Disney is do some mixing and matching and some distractions right now to keep us off guard as they role out their movie where people who have read the expanded universe may already have an idea of where they are going, because it's already gone there before.
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"That's it???  It's really that simple? 
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Re: Spoilers: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2017, 03:34:40 AM »
Spoilers. The big bad in the Expanded Universe is a 100,000 year old lady named...

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Re: Spoilers: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2017, 05:55:09 AM »
Or maybe both disney and star wars EU are both full of mediocrity and clumsily used tropes?

Neither IP is known for their subtlety or respect for canon & continuity here.

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Re: Spoilers: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2017, 02:04:56 PM »
Honestly, I was so disappointed in the movie that I didn't even care about Rey's parentage being "answered." Whether it's true or not to me, functionally, is meaningless. After this movie failed to provide any sort of payoff from events built up in The Force Awakens, all I can say is that the next one better be written by someone competent.

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Re: Spoilers: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2017, 03:04:12 PM »
Yeah, I hope there is more of a spark to this next movie.

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Re: Spoilers: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2017, 04:24:50 PM »
And what was the deal at the end, where the two little boys were telling the story of the battle between Luke and Ben, then showing one of them going out to sweep and using the force?

I think that could totally be a hint that there are lots of force users out there that are not getting trained, but could be gathered.

Also, I believe that ...

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Re: Spoilers: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2017, 04:38:37 PM »
Curious to know what Harry, Molly, Thomas, and Butters think of the new movies. And the franchise as a whole.

I'm guessing Harry and Butters are original trilogy sticklers who refuse to acknowledge the prequels, though Butters is up on pre-Phantom Menace Expanded Universe. And despite anything Harry says, I bet he thinks the Ewoks were cute, to Thomas' and Butters' disgust.

Thomas, despite his disdain for the portrayal, feels something of a sympathy with prequel Anakin, always being tempted by a darker side, but also a contempt for his weakness at dealing with it. He has only seen the movies and the Clone Wars animated series.

Molly enjoys all of it, understanding that just because it has imperfections doesn't mean it should be condemned. I'm hoping she brings some Star Wars-esque beings into the Winter Court.

None of them like Porgs.

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Re: Spoilers: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2017, 05:06:52 PM »
Curious to know what Harry, Molly, Thomas, and Butters think of the new movies. And the franchise as a whole.

I'm guessing Harry and Butters are original trilogy sticklers who refuse to acknowledge the prequels, though Butters is up on pre-Phantom Menace Expanded Universe. And despite anything Harry says, I bet he thinks the Ewoks were cute, to Thomas' and Butters' disgust.

Thomas, despite his disdain for the portrayal, feels something of a sympathy with prequel Anakin, always being tempted by a darker side, but also a contempt for his weakness at dealing with it. He has only seen the movies and the Clone Wars animated series.

Molly enjoys all of it, understanding that just because it has imperfections doesn't mean it should be condemned. I'm hoping she brings some Star Wars-esque beings into the Winter Court.

None of them like Porgs.

I don't understand why everyone was so down on the Porgs.

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Re: Spoilers: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2017, 08:23:08 PM »
I don't understand why everyone was so down on the Porgs.

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Personally, I found their presence to be overused. It's the type of RANDOMM XD humor that is currently popular but I find annoying. A couple of scenes are fine, but they were basically Chewbacca's entire character arc in the movie.

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Re: Spoilers: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2017, 09:59:48 PM »
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And what was the deal at the end, where the two little boys were telling the story of the battle between Luke and Ben, then showing one of them going out to sweep and using the force?
I think that could totally be a hint that there are lots of force users out there that are not getting trained, but could be gathered.
Yeah, the expanded universe never really force users as being all that rare.  I mean in the movies you'd think Luke, Lea, Vader, Emperor, Obiwan, etc were the only ones who were force users/potentials. In the EU, there are many force communities out there in the galaxy, with many people having some, medium, and strong strengths in the force.

Oh, and I can't wait to see DJ next time. (DJ Don't Join - the Codebreaker)
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"That's it???  It's really that simple? 
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