Book 17 Mirror Mirror? Rumor thread

[wardenferry419]

Whay one was that?

[Rhetoric]

Chapter 17

Bob’s eyelights brightened to brilliance and suddenly cast double cones of light on the wall. There was a scratchy sound that seemed to emanate from the skull itself, a blur of a sound like an old film sound track warming up, and then the old spotlight-sweeping 20th Century Fox logo appeared on the wall, along with the pompous trumpet-led symphony theme that often accompanied it.

“A movie?” I asked. “You can play movies?”

“And music! And TV! Butters gave me the Internet, baby! Now hush and pay attention.”

The opening logo bit faded to black and then familiar blue lettering appeared. It read: A LONG TIME AGO, PRETTY MUCH RIGHT HERE . . .

“Okay, come on,” I said. “You’re going to buy me a lawsuit, Bob.”

“Hush, Harry. Or you’ll go to the special hell.”

I blinked at that, confused. I’m not supposed to be the guy who doesn’t get the reference joke, dammit.

[wardenferry419]

Thanks, I forgot the Firefly reference.

[Kindler]

Funny, that joke popped into my head this morning before I read this thread.

[wardenferry419]

I think of that line and my next thought is Christina Hendricks.

[Arjan]

Chapter 17

That was because he was on track to becomming evil, those were early warning signals.

[Kindler]

I think of that line and my next thought is Christina Hendricks.

She's rarely far from my thoughts, too.

[Teslas Shadow]

I'm kind of a fan of the more subtle option.

A Mirror Harry that is more or less still Prime Harry, only pragmatic. Willing to make the compromise for the greater good. Still hyper protective of what he sees as 'his.' Basically, a guy that is or could be Marcone's 'business partner' on the supernatural side of things. Chicago with those two running it would be amazing to witness. It also would give Harry more insight into himself than a straight up mustache twirling version of himself would.

IMO This would be a great way to show him (and us) the costs if he had followed that path without mucking around with the 'Prime' parts of the story.

PS  Harry is familiar with the 'evil overlord' list. I sincerely hope Mirror Harry or Prime Harry brings it up at some point.

[Quantus]

That is the common theme. All those pop culture references fly right over the bad guys heads. I liked the moment in Cold Days when Bob made a pop culture reference that Harry didn't get and it upset hum.

Which makes it all the more tragic when you realize that Hannah Ascher got the jokes...

[Arjan]

Which makes it all the more tragic when you realize that Hannah Ascher got the jokes...

Who said it was Hannah who got the jokes?

[Quantus]

Who said it was Hannah who got the jokes?

I did, unless we want to entertain the Idea that Lasciel is one of the Good Guys

[Arjan]

I did, unless we want to entertain the Idea that Lasciel is one of the Good Guys

Lasciel is certainly the one who knows Harry best. 

[forumghost]

I did, unless we want to entertain the Idea that Lasciel is one of the Good Guys

Nah, she just did a heap of pop-culture research before the heist because she wanted another shot at seducing Harry using Hannah as a proxy.

[Arjan]

Nah, she just did a heap of pop-culture research before the heist because she wanted another shot at seducing Harry using Hannah as a proxy.

She did not have to because she was in Harry's head. The reason she knew exactly what to say to get Harry to kill himself. Probably the reason she knew about their daughter though Nicodemus could have told her as well.

It is what Harry learned after white night that gave him an edge.

[Talby16]

Lasciel is certainly the one who knows Harry best. 

She did not have to because she was in Harry's head. The reason she knew exactly what to say to get Harry to kill himself. Probably the reason she knew about their daughter though Nicodemus could have told her as well.

It is what Harry learned after white night that gave him an edge.

On the topic of Lasciel. Harry had an imprint of Lasciel in his brain he named Lash. She developed into a separate entity. Harry never took up the coin and Lash sacrificed herself to save Harry meaning that Lash was never reabsorbed into Lasciel. How then did Lasciel gain any intimate knowledge of Harry? That knowledge died with Lash. Although some or maybe all of it passed to Bonnie.

Pop culture references were probably all Hannah. I do not think that Lasciel knows Harry at all except by reputation and what was passed along by Nic. Hannah's anger at Harry for the destruction of her friends fed into Lasciel's anger at Harry for his refusal of her and vice versa. Lasciel is angry because her shadow failed to seduce Harry meaning that she failed. The fact that Harry and her shadow had a "baby" means that Harry seduced the shadow which only rubs salt in the wound. She easily could have found out about Bonnie from Nic as Harry told Murphy about the "parasite" in an unsecured environment (which in retrospect was not smart of Harry. He knew Anduriel was most likely Listening and yet still revealed a weakness/weapon/desirable possession).