Elaine / Kumori thought

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[wardenferry419]

I really do think that Cowl would have a more advanced level apprentice than a teenage girl. Kumori, in DB, spoke in a mature and cvil manner.

[Arjan]

Perhaps Victor Sells' daughter?

They know he council well and have identities to hide. They are probably council or related to council in some way.

[Rasins]

How Many female council members have we seen?

I can think of three.  Mai, Liberty, and Luccio.  I don't count Molly any longer.

[Snark Knight]

I can think of three.  Mai, Liberty, and Luccio.  I don't count Molly any longer.

Luccio cannot be Kumori, as explained earlier.

Mai or Liberty can't be so definitively ruled out, but it would have been logistically difficult to split their time between running around in Chicago while the Senior Council were engaged in battle in Dead Beat. Plus neither of them are particularly young, and Kumori said during their one-on-one conversation that she and Cowl had been taking turns trailing Harry, presumably including climbing all those stairs to go talk to "Sheila".

[Rasins]

Luccio cannot be Kumori, as explained earlier.

Mai or Liberty can't be so definitively ruled out, but it would have been logistically difficult to split their time between running around in Chicago while the Senior Council were engaged in battle in Dead Beat. Plus neither of them are particularly young, and Kumori said during their one-on-one conversation that she and Cowl had been taking turns trailing Harry, presumably including climbing all those stairs to go talk to "Sheila".

I agree wholeheartedly, and the only other female wizard we've seen was eaten by Ghouls, right?

[wardenferry419]

There are probably some apprentices and wardens-in-training left unmentioned for good reason.

[Rasins]

There are probably some apprentices and wardens-in-training left unmentioned for good reason.

But that would be no clue for us to worry over and that's not Jim's style.

[jonas]

I agree wholeheartedly, and the only other female wizard we've seen was eaten by Ghouls, right?

Isn't Warden Yoshimo(?) a female, the chick Harry mails for info on her family lineage being related to royalty when he's researching the swords?

[wardenferry419]

I really feel that there needs to be a stronger connection than a fellow Council member. It should be someone who Harry thinks he has saved or didn't save.

[Ananda]

True but that kind of person needs to fit in the Kumori role somehow. Kumori is a council level magical talent and according to bloodrites touching someone like that is enough to recognise magical talent. I think that if becket had real magical talent Harry would have known by now. The talent is also part of who someone is so it would have shown in the soulgaze somehow especially for someone driven by it like Kumori.

Oh, I don’t think it’s her, I just liked the idea.

[jonas]

Another offhand reason I peg Elaine as Kumori or at least traitor material is, if you keep looking through the Merlin perspective, Elaine is a dead ringer for Nimueh who was Merlins first love and later betrays him(in one version at the behest of a fae queen) Other versions having her being alternately a seductive magic user who attempts to undermine him or otherwise entrap him for all time.

[wardenferry419]

I think that when Justin tried to whammy Harry as a teenager; that was the creation of subconscious Harry. Harry only got a partial whammy; while Elaine got the full effect. So her subconscious is a bit more dominant and its identity is Kumori. Hence the name contrast of Elaine (light) and Kumori (shadow).

[Rasins]

I think that when Justin tried to whammy Harry as a teenager; that was the creation of subconscious Harry. Harry only got a partial whammy; while Elaine got the full effect. So her subconscious is a bit more dominant and its identity is Kumori. Hence the name contrast of Elaine (light) and Kumori (shadow).

Oh, I'd never heard the name comparison.

I still like Elaine as Kumori, and Simon as Cowl

[wardenferry419]

Me too. Until further info becomes available that is my go-to theory.