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Re: Mouse vs. Anduriel
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2017, 11:09:06 AM »
I've long thought that Mouse is eventually destined to be the one to end Anduriel (as much as this is possible for a Fallen), and Anduriel is aware of this.
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Re: Mouse vs. Anduriel
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2017, 12:57:18 PM »
How about Harry gets Nico and Mouse gets Anduriel?
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Re: Mouse vs. Anduriel
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2017, 05:28:10 PM »
Bob directly stated in White Night that Mouse could bite spiritual entities. The conversation where Harry asked more about Temple Dogs after Elaine recognized Mouse as a real one when his barking alerted the apartment full of people to the fire Vitto set.

Since Vadderung / Kringle explained that Anduriel's standing among the Fallen owes to his abilities as a spymaster rather than particular prowess as a warrior, I'm not surprised he'd flee confrontation with something that could harm his actual self.

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Re: Mouse vs. Anduriel
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2017, 07:52:43 PM »
As others have stated, Uriel refers to him as little brother and we know he's more powerful because hes at Michael's house. That would lead me to believe he has some sort of angelic powers that are powered by the threshold or at least able to draw on them.

If that is correct then he also is also a mortal and not as restricted, if at all, to how he uses the power, like Uriel and other Angels are. I think this is what scared Anduriel so much in SG.

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Re: Mouse vs. Anduriel
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2017, 01:56:09 AM »
I wonder if mouse is powerful enough to mess with Denarian spying, that would be an invaluable asset to have.
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Re: Mouse vs. Anduriel
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2017, 02:40:09 AM »
I wonder if mouse is powerful enough to mess with Denarian spying, that would be an invaluable asset to have.
Considering Nic didn't know Harry had him he's at least a blind spot himself. Nic/Anduriel definitely had an eye on Dresden but failed to pick up on his new foo dog?
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Re: Mouse vs. Anduriel
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2017, 02:56:00 AM »
Considering Nic didn't know Harry had him he's at least a blind spot himself. Nic/Anduriel definitely had an eye on Dresden but failed to pick up on his new foo dog?
He probably knew about the dog but picking up conversations and seeing a few things is different from seeing what the dog really is.
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Re: Mouse vs. Anduriel
« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2017, 01:38:12 PM »
Plus, he's not watching him all the time. It could simply be that the times Mouse manifested his power or that Dresden was talking about it, Nicodemus was busy with something else.
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Re: Mouse vs. Anduriel
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2017, 04:55:01 PM »
I'd bet that Nick's dossier on Harry said, "PETS:  1 Cat, male, 1 Dog, Male" and that's about it.
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Re: Mouse vs. Anduriel
« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2017, 06:47:51 PM »
Considering Nic didn't know Harry had him he's at least a blind spot himself. Nic/Anduriel definitely had an eye on Dresden but failed to pick up on his new foo dog?

Also recall that in Turn Coat Harry brought Mouse to the trial. A great number of wizards saw Harry there with Mouse including Mai, but no mention was made of him being a Foo dog until he stood up to corroborate the identification of Peabody.

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Re: Mouse vs. Anduriel
« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2017, 09:41:11 PM »
Well, Mouse doesn't like to draw attention to himself unless necessary.
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Re: Mouse vs. Anduriel
« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2017, 03:11:01 PM »
Well, Mouse doesn't like to draw attention to himself unless necessary.

In fact, he goes to great lengths (his lead) to appear under the radar.
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Re: Mouse vs. Anduriel
« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2017, 03:34:06 PM »
Well, Mouse doesn't like to draw attention to himself unless necessary.

Makes me think of the Sphinx from Mystery Men: "Hide your strikes from your enemy, and you may more easily strike his hide."

On topic: Jim has stated that Mouse is more clued in on everything than Harry. I recall a Word of Jim wherein he states something to the effect of "If I wrote a story from Mouse's perspective, most of the mysteries would be solved immediately because he knows more than Harry does." I think he knows what it'll take to kill Anduriel, and has the ability to actually make it happen.

Also, we haven't seen the Nickelheads on Halloween yet. Are they part of the Immortals Club that can be killed on Hallows Eve?

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Re: Mouse vs. Anduriel
« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2017, 04:49:45 PM »
Good question. 

I don't think so.  I think that the Angels are eternal.  Since they can be passed from one body to the next (kind of like a mantle).

Since the host is vulnerable every day, Halloween probably has no additional risk.
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Re: Mouse vs. Anduriel
« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2017, 05:54:28 PM »
Good question. 

I don't think so.  I think that the Angels are eternal.  Since they can be passed from one body to the next (kind of like a mantle).

Since the host is vulnerable every day, Halloween probably has no additional risk.

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