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Re: A pattern in last 4 books
« Reply #45 on: November 06, 2017, 08:16:34 PM »
Oe give Morty a nice, large army of ghosts that is not too fond of Nico.

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Re: A pattern in last 4 books
« Reply #46 on: November 06, 2017, 08:23:12 PM »
We know shades can "attach" themselves to someone or something (Sir Stuart). I wonder how many shades Nic has collected over the millennia. Morty may go into ectomancer overload if he was in the vicinity of Nic.
Stuart could attach himself to Morty because Morty gave him purpose as an ancestor/guardian spirit... I'm not so sure it would work the same with your murder vics, but I suppose he could have collected a 'following'.
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Re: A pattern in last 4 books
« Reply #47 on: November 06, 2017, 08:44:25 PM »
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Re: A pattern in last 4 books
« Reply #48 on: November 06, 2017, 08:46:04 PM »
Ghosts did a number on Bianca and Corpse-taker, why not have some effect on Nico?
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Re: A pattern in last 4 books
« Reply #49 on: November 06, 2017, 09:43:25 PM »
They could have "attached" themselves to him for the purpose of seeing him defeated. It makes me wonder if Nic has some additional protection against ghosts.

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Re: A pattern in last 4 books
« Reply #50 on: November 06, 2017, 10:53:48 PM »
They could have "attached" themselves to him for the purpose of seeing him defeated. It makes me wonder if Nic has some additional protection against ghosts.
Not saying it's impossible, but that's not regular ghost behavior. Even the ghosts of the red court vic's simply groaned where they were, stuck as ghosts until Dresden went and gave them a bunch of real magic to fiddle with. He might have some hauntings of his own, but no more than Achilles and the restless spirits who watch him across the river styx when he sleeps.
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Re: A pattern in last 4 books
« Reply #51 on: November 07, 2017, 03:24:11 PM »
Not saying it's impossible, but that's not regular ghost behavior. Even the ghosts of the red court vic's simply groaned where they were, stuck as ghosts until Dresden went and gave them a bunch of real magic to fiddle with. He might have some hauntings of his own, but no more than Achilles and the restless spirits who watch him across the river styx when he sleeps.

And don't forget that the veil had been intentionally weakened by Mavra.  That would give them more power.
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Re: A pattern in last 4 books
« Reply #52 on: November 07, 2017, 03:45:04 PM »
And don't forget that the veil had been intentionally weakened by Mavra.  That would give them more power.

As a tangential topic, I don't know why (probably because I'm dumb), but I never connected Mavra to previous feats of necromancy before. Maybe it's because I tend to gloss over the first three books, but Mavra and Cowl were both in town during Grave Peril, when a whole bunch of necromancy was going on (specifically Corpsetaker's brand of necromancy, with ghosts and specters and such). Could this be when Cowl and Mavra both found out about the Word being spotted? Is that one of the reasons Cowl was there? Or...did one of them arrange for Bony Tony to find the storage unit? We're talking about a mere four or five years before Dead Beat, so I find it likely that Tony spent a bit of time lining things up and slowly liquidating what he found.

As yet another side note... did Cowl specifically bring up Bianca's assistant's ghost to drive her insane? Did... did he basically engineer the circumstances that kicked off the war?

Sorry, it's a bit of a tangent, but I find it interesting that Mavra and Cowl were both hanging around both times necromancy was used.

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Re: A pattern in last 4 books
« Reply #53 on: November 07, 2017, 06:12:02 PM »
Once is chance, twice can be coincidence, but three times is a pattern. I am betting the next time we see either Cowl or Mavra, the other will not be far behind.
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Re: A pattern in last 4 books
« Reply #54 on: November 07, 2017, 06:29:36 PM »
And don't forget, we have not seen Kumori every time we've seen cowl.

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Re: A pattern in last 4 books
« Reply #55 on: November 07, 2017, 06:32:49 PM »
And don't forget, we have not seen Kumori every time we've seen cowl.
If your referring to WN, perhaps including Elaine in the story satisfied that point lol?
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Re: A pattern in last 4 books
« Reply #56 on: November 08, 2017, 03:25:01 PM »
If your referring to WN, perhaps including Elaine in the story satisfied that point lol?

Well .... if Elaine = Kumori
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Re: A pattern in last 4 books
« Reply #57 on: November 08, 2017, 04:07:03 PM »
Well .... if Elaine = Kumori
She clearly was not there as Cowl's sidekick. If Elaine = Kumori then she must have broen connection with Cowl after Dead Beat.
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Re: A pattern in last 4 books
« Reply #58 on: November 08, 2017, 05:54:16 PM »
She clearly was not there as Cowl's sidekick. If Elaine = Kumori then she must have broen connection with Cowl after Dead Beat.

Or she isn't Always needed at Cowl's side.
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