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Assuming he is a wizard, who is Cowl?

Other
13 (4.4%)
An Unmet Character
47 (15.8%)
Arthur Langtry
8 (2.7%)
Joseph "Listens-to-Wind"
0 (0%)
Ebenezer McCoy
4 (1.3%)
Simon Pietrovich
111 (37.4%)
Rashid the Gatekeeper
1 (0.3%)
Gregori Cristos
10 (3.4%)
Justin DuMorne
31 (10.4%)
Heinrich Kemmler
6 (2%)
Aleron LaFortier
3 (1%)
Samuel Peabody
2 (0.7%)
Mister
4 (1.3%)
"Mac" McAnally
2 (0.7%)
Time Travelling Harry Dresden
12 (4%)
Parallel Universe Harry Dresden
23 (7.7%)
Bluebeard
1 (0.3%)
Chandler
0 (0%)
Etienne the Enchanter
0 (0%)
Gomez (sleeping off a potion)
0 (0%)
Luciozzi (on sabbatical)
0 (0%)
Bill Meyers
0 (0%)
Klaus Schneider
2 (0.7%)
Thorsen
0 (0%)
Simmons
0 (0%)
Kostikos
0 (0%)
MacFee (doing a passable impersonation of a man)
0 (0%)
The Warden from Bremen
0 (0%)
The Original Merlin
4 (1.3%)
Montjoy (research trip in the Yucatán)
1 (0.3%)
Binder
0 (0%)
Leonid Kravos
0 (0%)
Victor Sells
1 (0.3%)
Aristedes
0 (0%)
Lucky
0 (0%)
Martha Liberty (doing a passable impersonation of a man)
1 (0.3%)
The Mailman from Storm Front
3 (1%)
Grevane
0 (0%)
Anthony Forthill
1 (0.3%)
Gregory Taggart (because why not)
0 (0%)
Father Paolo
1 (0.3%)
Benson Hagglethorn
0 (0%)
Larry Fowler
1 (0.3%)
Billy Sells
2 (0.7%)
Detective Green
0 (0%)
Nicholas Christian
0 (0%)
Malcolm Dresden
0 (0%)
Greg Beckitt
0 (0%)
Mike the Mechanic
2 (0.7%)
Richard/Rich/Rick/Dick
0 (0%)

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Re: Cowl's Identity
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2016, 02:09:50 PM »
  I just do not think he is anyone we know..

Yeah. I'm not entirely sure JB yas decided who Cowl really is, so he very well might not be anyone we or Harry have met yet.

Simon though would have been my second choice on this poll.
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« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2016, 02:15:44 PM »
Ugg.  This one certainly is due for a rerun... I wish you'd waited until December like I asked though ;)
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« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2016, 02:17:37 PM »
It is definitely Mike the Mechanic because he performs necromancy on Dresden's car over and over. He's hiding in plain sight!

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« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2016, 03:19:03 PM »
  I just do not think he is anyone we know..

So choice 2?

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Re: Cowl's Identity [FPOTM2 11.2016]
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2016, 04:13:49 PM »
I had to go with Simon, like everyone else.  I looked at all the choices and found the vase majority of them absurd.  Simon's the only one that makes sense in the list given.  No, I have no other candidates.

Btw, wasn't Grevane on-screen with Cowl at the Darkhallow in DB?  Cowl was there veiled as a "passive zombie" and stepped in when Ramirez took Grevane out, DB, Ch. 42.
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« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2016, 04:49:18 PM »
Well, I was going to go with Rudolph, the red nosed IA detective.  But since he wasn't listed as an option, I went with Simon

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Re: Cowl's Identity
« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2016, 06:01:34 PM »
  I just do not think he is anyone we know..
Yeah. I'm not entirely sure JB yas decided who Cowl really is, so he very well might not be anyone we or Harry have met yet.

Simon though would have been my second choice on this poll.
So choice 2?
Indeed, I included an option for 'An unmet person'.  'Other ' was intended more for those who would vote for Rudolph the red nosed AI detective, but can't becausei forgot him.
Well, I was going to go with Rudolph, the red nosed IA detective.  But since he wasn't listed as an option, I went with Simon
I might be able to add Rudolph.  He's up there with Larry Fowler for most annoying mortal that might actually be the Big Bad.

I had to go with Simon, like everyone else.  I looked at all the choices and found the vase majority of them absurd.  Simon's the only one that makes sense in the list given.  No, I have no other candidates.

Btw, wasn't Grevane on-screen with Cowl at the Darkhallow in DB?  Cowl was there veiled as a "passive zombie" and stepped in when Ramirez took Grevane out, DB, Ch. 42.
Yup.  But several are dead, so... who am I to nitpick?

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Re: Cowl's Identity [FPOTM2 11.2016]
« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2016, 06:19:30 PM »
Who is Cowl?

For the purpose of this poll, we're assuming that Harry's observation in Dead Beat is correct, and that Cowl is a mortal practitioner.

For the sake of keeping the list reasonable, Time Travel/Parallel Universe options have not been made available for anyone other than Harry.

Some that are listed seem highly unlikely, due to being dead, on-page with Cowl, the wrong gender, or some other limiting factor.  But as some theorize that Simon could be Cowl, I've included others that are normally overlooked as well.

Curator's note:  Griff followed my requested convention for this kind of thing by starting with "Other."  If you vote "Other" please post your choice so that it may be added to the bottom of the list.  Then you can change your vote to your actual choice.  -Serack
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Re: Cowl's Identity [FPOTM2 11.2016]
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2016, 06:20:43 PM »
There's a part of me that hopes it turns out to be Darth Wannabe or one of his friends.  Mostly because of the look of incredulity on Harry's face when he recognized him, then realized that his archrival in a cowl does in fact have a dark mark tattoo. 
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Re: Cowl's Identity [FPOTM2 11.2016]
« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2016, 07:58:45 PM »
There's a part of me that hopes it turns out to be Darth Wannabe or one of his friends.  Mostly because of the look of incredulity on Harry's face when he recognized him, then realized that his archrival in a cowl does in fact have a dark mark tattoo.

Are you saying you changed your vote for most relevant short story?
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« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2016, 08:12:03 PM »
So choice 2?

Indeed, I included an option for 'An unmet person'.  'Other ' was intended more for those who would vote for Rudolph the red nosed AI detective, but can't becausei forgot him.I might be able to add Rudolph.  He's up there with Larry Fowler for most annoying mortal that might actually be the Big Bad.
Yup.  But several are dead, so... who am I to nitpick?

It was your choice of words 'An unmet person' that threw me off. It would have made more sense to me if you just said 'Harry hasn't met him yet'. I see the word 'unmet' and I'm asking what does that mean? I know it's a legit word, but in this context it sounds strange.
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Re: Cowl's Identity [FPOTM2 11.2016]
« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2016, 08:17:15 PM »
Are you saying you changed your vote for most relevant short story?
Oh absolutely not, The whole point is that he's the /least/ relevant character I can think of.   
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« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2016, 09:52:27 PM »
I had to change it to other,
How's about, an alteration version of the original Merlin inside the same timeline.
Classically, Merlin exists backward through time in all timelines, but with the DR thing, 5 different times at the same time, I think 5 variation ended up in every timeline and grew off from there.
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« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2016, 01:46:53 AM »
Oh absolutely not, The whole point is that he's the /least/ relevant character I can think of.

Sorry, I proally should have added a wink emoticon to that or something :)
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« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2016, 06:31:03 PM »
I had to change it to other,
How's about, an alteration version of the original Merlin inside the same timeline.
Classically, Merlin exists backward through time in all timelines, but with the DR thing, 5 different times at the same time, I think 5 variation ended up in every timeline and grew off from there.
Not being contentious... just curious.

The "Merlin lives backwards" thing, as far as I remember, was the product/invention of T.H. White's Once and Future King and was later coopted by the Disney Corp. when they turned it into an animated film.
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I don't recall the "backwards" part actually being in the Disney film, nor do I recall the concept being embraced by Mary Stewart in her series which started with The Cristal Cave.  The Arthurian legend has been a particular interest of mine for some time and I've read lots of stories (seen a lot of movies, too) of various levels of fact and fiction related to it but don't recall anything but White's story where Merlin is living in reverse time. 

Do you have any references I can look at?  I'd love to see what they have to say.  tyvm
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