Harry Naming Things

[Gigglestomp]

Nifty necro! I was just thinking about this post yesterday as a matter of fact! I'm going to keep this post up to date as the new novels roll out. I still mean to go back and track the changes to Murphey's name. Harry changes her name as their relationship changes, and you especially notice it in the later books when (coincidence?) Murphey's character changes quite a bit.

If anyone wants to help me out, I want to track the book numbers where it changes. I think she was Murphey originally, then became Murph as they got closer. And towards the end he called her Karrin a lot. That's all from memory though, and I want to track it down to be sure.

I remember at one point reading a WOJ commenting on a reader's observation about the nickname changing after that business in changes. He said something along the line of "I love an observant reader."

[Serack]

Nifty necro! I was just thinking about this post yesterday as a matter of fact! I'm going to keep this post up to date as the new novels roll out. I still mean to go back and track the changes to Murphey's name. Harry changes her name as their relationship changes, and you especially notice it in the later books when (coincidence?) Murphey's character changes quite a bit.

If anyone wants to help me out, I want to track the book numbers where it changes. I think she was Murphey originally, then became Murph as they got closer. And towards the end he called her Karrin a lot. That's all from memory though, and I want to track it down to be sure.

I remember at one point reading a WOJ commenting on a reader's observation about the nickname changing after that business in changes. He said something along the line of "I love an observant reader."

It is possible that the topic will autolock again tonight.  If it does and you are to continue to edit it, you will either have to poke the curating staff to unlock it when you are ready to implement an edit (preferred that you already have it ready to plug in to avoid multiple unlocks for one editing session) or you may have to build a new, unautolocked version that can replace this one.

Edit:  Oh, and glad to see that you are looking forward to maintaining this reference.  I'm glad I clued into it when looking back at your old posts.

[Quantus]

Ooh, if there are going to be updates to the list, there's the bits from my first post, and also Darth Wannabe from Day Off

[Orbweaver]

Interesting. My posts in this topic seem to have vanished.

[Gigglestomp]

Ok guys! Skin game is out! What can we add? =)

[Quantus]

Well, offhand it really pissed Nicodemus off when Harry called him Nicky.  Not a supernatural thing methinks, but worth including for the sake of completeness. 

More to follow.



PS. Octokong.  Classic!

[el_nino]

i think theres a WOJ that harry starts calling her karrin after she agrees to help find maggie/become her guardian incase.
similarly with billy, in turn coat he acknowledges him as a grown guy who can take care of himself and starts calling him will.

also, do the ppl who believe harry has a unique abillity/power to name things think this will have some sort of an inverse effect on bjorn bjorgunnarson, the scandinavian warden who he doesnt refer to by the same name twice??

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also, do the ppl who believe harry has a unique abillity/power to name things think this will have some sort of an inverse effect on bjorn bjorgunnarson, the scandinavian warden who he doesnt refer to by the same name twice??

Not so much, UnNaming would be harder I would think/hope, just like UnMaking a spell. 

[KurtinStGeorge]

In Skin Game, Harry shortens the name of Nic's new goon from Squire Jordan to simply Jordan.  It might be seen as a prelude to removing Jordan from service to Nicodemus. 

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In Skin Game, Harry shortens the name of Nic's new goon from Squire Jordan to simply Jordan.  It might be seen as a prelude to removing Jordan from service to Nicodemus.

Possible I suppose, but I dont really think simply dropping an honorific would qualify, any more than omitting the Dr. from Butters or the Sgt. from Murphy.

[Foxed]

There's nothing magic about it, and maybe nothing conscious on Harry's part (then again, does Harry ever consciously Name someone?), but I think it does, in fact, matter.

[Gigglestomp]

There's nothing magic about it, and maybe nothing conscious on Harry's part (then again, does Harry ever consciously Name someone?), but I think it does, in fact, matter.

He actually does. He consciously names the Octokongs, and explains why.

It bothers him when scary things don't have a name. Unknown, unnamed, scary things are way scarier than something scary that has a name. He says he goes out of his way to name scary things.

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It bothers him when scary things don't have a name. Unknown, unnamed, scary things are way scarier than something scary that has a name. He says he goes out of his way to name scary things.

Agreed.  And there are thing that dont have known names (like the Octokongs or the Chlorofiend) and then there are things that are actually Nameless, a term Demonreach itself used to describe some beings.  Which given the Nature of Names int he DV, is a whole other class of scary in my book

[Lawgiver]

I was under the impression that it was a common Name for them in the supernatural community.  Like how they call themselves the Knights of the Cross but others call them the Knights of the Sword.  Granted its a name that Michael denounced in DM when talking about their real purpose and whatnot.

Regardless, I just did a search on every mention of it, and it not presented as something of harry's specifically like the other were, so I dont think it will be significant.

"Grey Council" was coined by Eb not Harry.

Turn Coat. Chapter 49, where Eb is escorting Harry from Edinburgh.

I thought about it for a minute. "You know that in every objective sense, we're making a Black Council of our own."

"Aye."

"So where does that leave us?"

"With pure hearts and good intentions," he answered. "Our strength shall be the strength of ten."

I snorted loudly.

Ebenezar smiled wearily. "Well, Hoss, we're not going to have much choice other than to be walking down some might dark alleys. And doing it in mighty questionable company. Maybe we should think of ourselves as... a Grey Council."

"Grey Council," I said. We started walking again....{snip}

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"Grey Council" was coined by Eb not Harry.

Turn Coat. Chapter 49, where Eb is escorting Harry from Edinburgh.

Indeed.