Statting Up Worm Characters

[narphoenix]

I'd make it one refresh, then. Not two.

[Sanctaphrax]

Okay then, I'll go with that.

EDIT: But I could be convinced otherwise. Hick, feel free to present a counter-argument.

[Hick Jr]

Most of your writeups are the character at their first appearance. Dragon was horrifically limited at her first appearance. She'd devised almost no workarounds for her limitations and the majority of her interlude was "God i hate not having free will". Even after Defiant's intervention, she was severely limited.

Negative Refresh=/= Evil. It means you don't have choice, which, for a while, Dragon didn't.


(Whether or not Dragon has positive refresh is mostly immaterial to me. I'm just playing the devil's advocate.)

[narphoenix]

But there's a difference between being limited and not having free will. Michael, for example, couldn't interfere with Cassius, or else he'd lose the source of his power. Similarly, Dragon is perfectly free to violate the terms of Richter's imprisonment…it's just that she faces a steep penalty every time she tries. A character without free will would't even consider acting contrary to their nature, as per WoJ.

[narphoenix]

Sorry about the double post, but…

But…but…but…but…but…

[Hick Jr]

oh.

this is...

but i thought that....


just go read it.

[Sanctaphrax]

Looks like that's the ball game, guys. If you've got donations and/or epilogue requests, get them in now.

But there's a difference between being limited and not having free will. Michael, for example, couldn't interfere with Cassius, or else he'd lose the source of his power. Similarly, Dragon is perfectly free to violate the terms of Richter's imprisonment…it's just that she faces a steep penalty every time she tries.

Can I get a citation for that?

I thought she was actually unable to act against her programming.

[Stirge]

Long time lurker here, first time poster in this thread :-).  You guys got me addicted to Worm about a month ago, and just in time for it to end! ;_;  Fantastic job detailing the characters, I've enjoyed all the conversions.

Between this thread and the PBP Recruitment one I was intrigued about converting Worm over to the DFRPG.  I didn't want to derail the topic of this thread (actually statting out the characters vs working on base rules for running a campaign in the 'verse) so I started my own thread:

http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,39553.msg1946061.html#msg1946061

 I hope you all chime in with your thoughts/opinions, thanks!

[dpara]

Well, Marquis is pretty powerful. And Crawler's power would be great in moderation...never get sick, never get old, fear no injury, get a variety of minor physical upgrades.

I'm surprised that Oliver's power is so far down your list. Trickster makes it sound pretty good, even if it doesn't fix Oliver's psychological issues:

I was kinda joking with Oliver, I see little reason to pick his powerset if there are Nyx/Nix/Satyrs to choose.

Kinda similar with Marquis, sure he's the coolest motherfucker around but his powerset can be simulated by most forcefields .. and boneshattering pain, can't stress that enough.

*doh moderation, you are right.. my inner munchkin didn't think of that xD.

[Sanctaphrax]

What I'm most surprised by is neither of you picking Alexandria. Enhanced intellect, perfect memory, eternal youth...it's an awesome package. And while I'm not terribly keen on the strength and durability and flying powers she's got, I would expect other people to want them.

And Genesis and the Number Man are more popular than I expected them to be. I know I picked the Number Man myself, but I kind of did that because I'm a man of numbers already. Wasn't expecting his powers to have such broad appeal.

[narphoenix]

I'd definitely pick a Thinker or a Tinker, but that's just because they'd complement me well. I could do /tons/ if I had Taylor's power. I already basically have Imp's power, I think (I can be really sneaky despite being well known). I'd probably want Bonesaw's power the most, actually.

But Alexandria is a bitch. Therefore no.

[Sanctaphrax]

Hold on.

You object to Alexandria's power on moral grounds, but Bonesaw's power is a-OK?

Seriously?

[narphoenix]

Hold on.

You object to Alexandria's power on moral grounds, but Bonesaw's power is a-OK?

Seriously?

Yes. Because Bonesaw is upfront about it. Plus, her power is more in line with what I want to do eventually (sans horror shows), and Riley Heel Face Turns.

EDIT: Plus, I didn't object to Alexandria on moral grounds. I objected to her on she's a bitch grounds. Difference.

[narphoenix]

Not the right place for this, but quick question.

How much would a power to not take mental stress for spell casting if using power up to Conviction (with modifiers) cost?

[Hick Jr]

A lot.

I would cost that at about 4 Refresh, just eyeballing it. It gets exponentially more powerful as the number of Refinements increases.