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Offline Bjornaer

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White Court Powers
« on: April 06, 2013, 10:58:35 AM »
So far, we know of three White Court emotions that can be used:

Lust
Fear
Despair

I'm trying to find more that are both playable and feelt right:
Intoxication???
Idleness?
Vanity?
Wrath? (better: anger!)
Greed?
Pride?
Envy?
Gluttony?

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« Last Edit: April 07, 2013, 03:46:43 PM by Bjornaer »

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Re: White Court Powers
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2013, 12:42:40 PM »
I'm against Intoxication as it is more a state than an emotion; that is, intoxication rather amplifies what you're normally feeling were you sober, so if you were happy or angry about something, now you're very happy or very angry about it.

I think I'm okay with the others, though I believe Paranoia is more properly replaced by Fear.
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Re: White Court Powers
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2013, 02:15:36 PM »
Idleness = apathy or sloth.  I just like those terms better.

I was also thinking Gluttony, since that's one of the deadly sins, but I'm not sure if that counts as an emotion.

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Re: White Court Powers
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2013, 08:45:18 PM »
Envy or jealousy

Offline Bjornaer

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Re: White Court Powers
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2013, 08:49:44 PM »
So apart from those world of darkness things, anything else?
And which of these is playable?

I think sloth is really scary:
Imagine in a fight, you just feel too lazy to shoot the other guy...

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Re: White Court Powers
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2013, 10:05:34 PM »
A problem with a lot of these suggestions is coming up with a good counter emotion. Lust have love, but what is the opposite of apathy?

Remember also that the opposite has fall in the happy middle ground between too common and too rare.

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Re: White Court Powers
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2013, 10:06:55 PM »
The opposite of apathy is ambition.

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Re: White Court Powers
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2013, 10:32:24 PM »
I'm actually going to roll a new character that has doubt/suspicion/paranoia as his emotion. The counter is true faith. Plus, he's going to be afflicted with Cassandra's Tears.

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Re: White Court Powers
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2013, 12:15:12 AM »
I've seen Greed and Wrath done well.

I think Sloth, Pride, and Gluttony also ought to work. With Industry, Humility, and Temperance as the opposites.

Envy would be trickier. And Intoxication just seems kind of wrong to me.

Dunno what else might work...Confusion, maybe?

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Re: White Court Powers
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2013, 12:36:44 AM »
Y'know, going by the list of stuff Love isn't that Thomas rattles off it would make sense for Love to counter lots of WCV stuff.

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Re: White Court Powers
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2013, 04:09:29 AM »
Envy with the opposite being generosity.

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Re: White Court Powers
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2013, 05:04:40 AM »
I had a group of envy vampires in a DC game.  They had a good scam going with a bit of manipulation and bribery of city officials...at least until the PCs interfered.  A defensive envy block was kind of fun...just at the moment of attacking they'd be distracted by that very cool thing (insert item here) someone nearby had.   ;D
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Re: White Court Powers
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2013, 05:10:01 AM »
Envy wouldn't really be that hard, it's the malicious desire of something that you don't have.  Apparently there's supposed to be a positive application of envy as well, but I didn't read that part too closely since I didn't figure on that being a likely thing for a WCV to be concerned about.

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Re: White Court Powers
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2013, 09:52:58 AM »
Once more, I realize how Christian the Dresdenverse is. Lust is a bad emotion, and the 7 deadly sins are appropriate.
KOFFEYKID speaks of extremes and the middle ground. which I like a lot. Aristotles ethics might provide further examples that go beyond Christianity.

Insecurity?
frigidity? (hard to play, sounds like a dirty joke, better: near impossible to play)
chattiness? (Is that an emotion?)
shame?
curiosity?
stubbornness?


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Re: White Court Powers
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2013, 11:28:21 AM »
Shame actually feels spot on for a WCV!