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Series Spanning Plot Threads
« on: November 15, 2012, 08:06:05 PM »
So if I had to name a single reason why I love the Dresden Files so much, it would have to be the significance of the interweaving plot threads through the course of the series.  (and then I'd probably go on and on about the character/relationship building [main, and support], awesome action scenes, and heavy snark as supplimental drives)

So this topic is an attempt at making a reference of all these series spanning plot threads, and Reply #1 will be dedicated to an attempt to outline which ones were dreampt up later rather than when the overall series plot was initially developed.

I will probably be making liberal usage of acronyms.  I won't define the ones already defined in the "dictionary"
SRT = Significant Reoccurring Thread (at least Serack thinks it's hugely significant, but that the significance may be subtle)
POC = Possible Outsider Connection (used liberaly even for confirmed outsider connections, the thing is, the tag will be added to some items before the reader is aware of the connection)

Note: The below spoiler tags do /not/ serve to hide "spoilers."
They serve souly to compress this gargantuan reference into bite size pieces.


First, I want to posit that the Series Spanning thread that is so significant it deserves it's own category as a Series Spanning Tapestry is Harry's Family.  There are threads of this "Tapestry" that manifest seperately, but the overall, main background story/mystery is this.  I'll also list some sub-threads for it...

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  • Major Background Tapestry:  Harry's Power Development
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Threads that need attention:  Grey Council,
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Re: Series Spanning Plot Threads
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2012, 08:07:25 PM »
Ok I'm changing the purpose of the first reply a little to seperate out all the Series Spanning Plot Threads (SSPTs) that I suspect or know Jim came up with, or Changed significantly later in the series rather than when he came up with the overall series plot.

  • Known Late editions or changes
    • Harry's Relationship with Susan:
      Admittedly changed before book 3, including the idea for lil Maggie
    • Archive/Ivy:
      Not only did he come up with this for book 4, but he took use of the "The author always has the right to come up with a better idea" retcon clause here for book 10 when he changed the backstory for her.
    • Butters:
      Dreamed up for Book 5 as a one off character
    • Lasciel/Lash story line:
      Added to the end of Book 5 as a whim
    • Mouse
  • Likely planned from the beginning:
    • Demonreach
    • Little Chicago
  • Almost certainly planned from the beginning: (Mostly as per Serack's suspicions, w/ some WoJ backing)
    • Everything to do with Harry's family (other than lil Maggie)
    • The Knights of the Cross & Denarians (other than Lash plot)
    • Winter Knight drama
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Re: Series Spanning Plot Threads
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2012, 08:32:00 PM »
I'm doing this for the fun of it, and also because listing things out like this might knock loose a few new theories...

Like while editing in some threads for Storm Front, I started thinking how the times Jim has invested ink into revealing some of the Persephonie thread happen to be in the book 5, 10 schedule...  Which is a small sample size but considering Jim has hinted that Denarians every 5 books is intentional, maybe Jim's ultimate "Plan" involves Marcone becoming more involved with the Denarians (either as an enemy or utilizing a coin somewaysomehow)
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Re: Series Spanning Plot Threads
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2012, 08:51:02 PM »
Who will the swords be given to is another one that pops up or gets referenced in DM, PG and SmF.
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Re: Series Spanning Plot Threads
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2012, 09:01:21 PM »
Who will the swords be given to is another one that pops up or gets referenced in DM, PG and SmF.

This will probably be a pretty vast project, and as such, a lot of input will help it become something truely mature.

I'll probably put that down as "Sword of the Cross Stewardship" when I get to DM
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Re: Series Spanning Plot Threads
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2012, 09:07:24 PM »
Will this get stickied to the board and be routinely updated as the series progresses? Because that would make it easier for people to make new theories.
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Re: Series Spanning Plot Threads
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2012, 09:08:22 PM »
Will this get stickied to the board and be routinely updated as the series progresses? Because that would make it easier for people to make new theories.

It is very likely that I will move this to the reference section.
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Re: Series Spanning Plot Threads
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2012, 09:13:20 PM »
Like while editing in some threads for Storm Front, I started thinking how the times Jim has invested ink into revealing some of the Persephonie thread happen to be in the book 5, 10 schedule... 

DM and WN, iirc, which is 5 and 9 rather than 5 and 10.
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Re: Series Spanning Plot Threads
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2012, 09:18:30 PM »
DM and WN, iirc, which is 5 and 9 rather than 5 and 10.

I was thinking that Executive Priority Health was introduced in book 10, but that's right Dimeter was first introduced as a member of the Ordo in 9. 

I knew populating this was going to be complicated, and that I was going to be leaning heavily on other people for input :)

Edit:  Halp! what was "Dimeter's" actual name from SF?
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Re: Series Spanning Plot Threads
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2012, 09:24:21 PM »
Helen Becket
Also, I cant find the reference section, where is it?
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Re: Series Spanning Plot Threads
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2012, 09:34:30 PM »
Helen Becket
Also, I cant find the reference section, where is it?

Up the top of the DF spoilers section, above the stickied threads, under child boards.
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Re: Series Spanning Plot Threads
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2012, 10:12:44 PM »
This has the potential to be a pretty epic thread and a great resource for theorycrafting.

Here's my contribution:

Fool Moon:
  • The Alphas
  • Tera West
  • MacFinn (the loup-garou)
  • Harry having apprentices or mentoring other practitioners (Kim Delaney) (Not really a plot thread per se, but it sets up Molly later)
  • Marcone
  • Hendricks? (Not sure when he's introduced or what books he's relevant in)
  • FBI Agents
  • Full Moon Garage lycanthropes
  • Murphy and Special Investigations
  • Susan (add to Storm Front as well)
  • Public notice of the supernatural (Susan's footage on the news, which then disappears)

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Re: Series Spanning Plot Threads
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2012, 10:14:17 PM »
I've been doing something similar, rereading the series in order, looking for missed clue-bats in preparation for CD. I don't think I'll finish it in time (barring a few all-nighters, which is possible, but I need my beauty sleep lol), but I'll be happy to throw in anything I find.

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Re: Series Spanning Plot Threads
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2012, 10:51:47 PM »
Storm Front.
Heart explosion spell that Sells uses is the same as the Red Court spell in Changes.

Fool Moon, the last paragraph is talking about there being a monster who set everything up paving the way for the future Black Council.
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Re: Series Spanning Plot Threads
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2012, 11:05:20 PM »
Series Spinning plot threads?

Drakul, Titania, and anyone else Jim is keeping in reserve until we hit the BAT. Ferrovax is in there as well.

-The identity of anyone who opened the Outer Gates through the series.

-Summer Knight: The identity of the traitor at Archangel and the method used to betray the warden stronghold.

-The quote from Jim about not messing with the Librarians.

-The Oblivion War

-Margaret LeFay

Off the top of my head, these are some pretty big over-arcing plot lines.
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