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Re: Harry Dresden vs. Ghostbusters International... Crossover Madness!
« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2011, 05:57:16 PM »
I would be very interested to see mechanics for the ghostbusters.

Not entirely sure but proton packs need to have fallout happening on a regular basis.
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Re: Harry Dresden vs. Ghostbusters International... Crossover Madness!
« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2011, 06:01:19 PM »
I would be very interested to see mechanics for the ghostbusters.

Very likely, I'm going to re-introduce several Engineering (personal Gadget and Universal Gadget) and Science (Scientific Invention, Weird Science, Mad Science) skill related stunts from the Spirit of the Century rules, so we can emulate the ghostbusting gear.

Otherwise, they collective set of gear -- proton pack, ghost trap, PKE meter, etc -- could feasibly be considered a single "Item of Power", I suppose.

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Re: Harry Dresden vs. Ghostbusters International... Crossover Madness!
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2011, 12:08:33 AM »
Very likely, I'm going to re-introduce several Engineering (personal Gadget and Universal Gadget) and Science (Scientific Invention, Weird Science, Mad Science) skill related stunts from the Spirit of the Century rules, so we can emulate the ghostbusting gear.

Otherwise, they collective set of gear -- proton pack, ghost trap, PKE meter, etc -- could feasibly be considered a single "Item of Power", I suppose.

For refresh cost purposes that might work.  Then again, they're mundane items that anyone could pick up and use if they knew how so I could see a somewhat better argument for retaining your PM status and not going that direction for cost.
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Re: Harry Dresden vs. Ghostbusters International... Crossover Madness!
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2011, 02:07:49 PM »
Heh.  Look what I found...











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Re: Harry Dresden vs. Ghostbusters International... Crossover Madness!
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2011, 08:05:15 AM »
wow! haven't seen that in a while...

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Re: Harry Dresden vs. Ghostbusters International... Crossover Madness!
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2011, 06:06:44 PM »
Otherwise, they collective set of gear -- proton pack, ghost trap, PKE meter, etc -- could feasibly be considered a single "Item of Power", I suppose.

I think an IoP  [Bulky, so +2] providing:
"Channelling: Nuclear Energy" [-2]
Stunt: "The Power of Science" - substitute Scholarship for Conviction when using Proton Pack. [-1]
Total cost: -1

The ghost trap would be IoP (no bonus, assuming character already has Proton Pack):
"Rituals: Quantum Entanglement" [-2]
Stunt: "The Power of Science" - substitute Scholarship for Lore when using Ghost Trap. [-1]

I might prefer that he ghost trap simply be a component of a Taken Out result when subduing a ghost using the Proton Pack.

I think Discipline should remain as the "Casting" skill for a Proton Pack - this should ensure that the less-focused Ghostbusters *will* be causing Fallout damage.
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Re: Harry Dresden vs. Ghostbusters International... Crossover Madness!
« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2011, 08:46:29 PM »
I think an IoP  [Bulky, so +2] providing:
"Channelling: Nuclear Energy" [-2]
Stunt: "The Power of Science" - substitute Scholarship for Conviction when using Proton Pack. [-1]
Total cost: -1

The ghost trap would be IoP (no bonus, assuming character already has Proton Pack):
"Rituals: Quantum Entanglement" [-2]
Stunt: "The Power of Science" - substitute Scholarship for Lore when using Ghost Trap. [-1]

I might prefer that he ghost trap simply be a component of a Taken Out result when subduing a ghost using the Proton Pack.

I think Discipline should remain as the "Casting" skill for a Proton Pack - this should ensure that the less-focused Ghostbusters *will* be causing Fallout damage.

Looking over the base FATE rules for Spirit of the Century, I might have an easier solution...  I'd been thinking about allowing my players to use SotC stunts on a case-by-case basis as mortal stunts.  I don't think any of them are terribly more powerful than what's already suggested in DFRPG, and it would really expand the list for those players who don't feel comfortable making up something that isn't already in the rulebook.  At any rate, I ran across the rules for gadgets again, and I think they might suffice...

First, there's a series of stunts for gadgets, most notably: Personal Gadget, Universal Gadget, Custom Firearm and Weapon of Destiny.

Second, for those who don't want to spend the refresh cost, the SotC SRD has rules for purchasing gadgets (which is right in line with how the GBI franchise rights are supposed to go...  proprietary equipment is supposed to be purchased from and serviced by GBI, not the players.)

So, a proton pack might start out as the equivalent of a flame thrower (a rifle-like "gun" attached by hose to a backpack-like device, which deals significant damage and can "spray" it's attacks).  As a standardized Personal Gadget, we can give it three upgrades: Miniaturization (as pseudo-scientifically described in the movies, it's effectively a portable particle accelerator), Special Effect (it can be used to grapple ghosts and other ectoplasmic creatures at range), and Alternate Usage (damage counts as both fire and electricity), for example.

PKE meters might be part of a "Ghostbusters Utility Belt" Universal Gadget -- Alternate Usage (Use Alertness or Scholarship in place for Lore for Mystic Perception) -- while leaving the rest of the Universal Gadget undefined until needed.

A trap doesn't even have to be a gadget...  It could just be a specialized item.  We could treat it, effectively, as a thrown and remotely activated "explosive" with a special effect that imposes the "Trapped" aspect on ectoplasmic creatures.  First "grappling" them with the proton packs, of course, makes it easier to trap them, due to all the resulting aspects imposed from the "grappling".

Now, according to the SRD rules, the cost of purchasing a gadget is equal to the base cost of the item +2 for each upgrade...  Very Pricey.  A single proton pack might have a resources cost of Good (+3) +6 -- One better than Legendary! (No wonder Ray needed to take out a second mortgage on his house!...  Aspects to the rescue!)  Even the utility belt might have a cost of Good or Great.  Of course, having the option to take them as stunts ameliorates the cost to a large degree.