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Umm ok maybe waaay off, but could Fitz in someway be Bob's son. Here me out, in GS Bob's "Human form" has gold-brown eyes, what if when Harry once let Bob out he ahh went along for a ride with someone, hey he apparently started an orgy once. Then if a baby resulted, would that kid be more prone to the spirit world, I don't know be able to hear it?

Then again the dark skin of Fitz fits more in line with Tera

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it could work I guess.  The red hair bronze skin, and brown eyes seems to be more of a cluebat for the Tera/MacFinn combo, but good catch.  I like it much better than the Lea alternative theory.
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Yeah, agree the Tera/MacFinn fits way better.

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Umm ok maybe waaay off, but could Fitz in someway be Bob's son. Here me out, in GS Bob's "Human form" has gold-brown eyes, what if when Harry once let Bob out he ahh went along for a ride with someone, hey he apparently started an orgy once. Then if a baby resulted, would that kid be more prone to the spirit world, I don't know be able to hear it?

"He [Bob] looked . . . quite ordinary, really. Tall, but not outrageously so; slender without being rail thin. He had decent shoulders and looked sort of familiar. He was dressed like James Dean—jeans, a white shirt, a leather biker’s jacket."  I wonder who Bob looks like, why he looks familiar.  Or is it tied in with the following:
“There’s the Bob I know and love,” I said. “Love, ick,” he replied. “And I am and I’m not. I mean, you get that I change based on who possesses the skull, right?” “Sure,” I said. “So I’m a lot like I was with you, even though I’m with Butters, because he met me back then. First impression and whatnot, highly important.”  Perhaps Bob's appearance is the amalgamation of past and present owners.
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Well yeah, but Jim does use tags for peopleand if he wanted to give a subtle hint about biologcal relationships, those physical tags could be used, any way, Bob had golden-orange lights in his eyes sockets, and two similar tags used in the same book.

But yeah, bob's a spirit and his chosen appearance is probably affected just as much as his personality by the people who hold him.

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Based on what we've been given so far, I believe that the Tara + MacFinn = Fitz theory seems to be the most plausible at this point. Consider this though:
a) We don't know how they met,
b) nor if they were together in order to pass the curse off onto a magical offspring.
For all we know, this was intentional on their part in an effort to stem the power of the curse, or perhaps it was do to the mechinations of one of the bigger powers at work.
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You'll have to forgive me I didn't read all the comments so I hope I am not repeating something.

Serack, some questions for you if you can answer them.

Do you think Fitz will be able to control the change (or be trained to control it) or have his human consciousness afterward? 
Does he have a soul or some mixed hybrid of one?
Would this explain why he was able to hear Harry?

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I don't buy this one; ever-virgin is a core attribute for Valkyries.
Not if you believe Gard in Heoroth. But I see nothing of Gard in Fitz description.
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You'll have to forgive me I didn't read all the comments so I hope I am not repeating something.

Serack, some questions for you if you can answer them.

Do you think Fitz will be able to control the change (or be trained to control it) or have his human consciousness afterward? 
Does he have a soul or some mixed hybrid of one?
Would this explain why he was able to hear Harry?

Sure, I'm not Serack. But I think I can address some of your questions.
Wolves are all over mythology for several cultures -  sometimes good, sometimes evil. In many cases, especially that of Native American lore, they are somehow linked to the supernatural. Based on Jim's use of mythology and folklorem I think Fitz's ability to perceive things beyond the natural world could be attributed to his wolf heritage (should he turn out to be Tera's son).

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I  choose to believe that any supernatural being that implies something rather than stating it outright is covering for not directly stating it.

The more obvious the implication, the more I believe this.  Because you can't go around sticking "legend has it" before every time you might possibly want an ambiguity.
lol, I think there are clinical terms for that.  Maybe even medications  ;)
In seriousness though, the other explanation is that they talk like real, normal people and not like they are on a witness stand where every syllable is going to be dissected for hidden meaning and binding literalism.  We tend to dissect a bit too much, due mostly to an everpresent gnawing addiction that no amount of text seems able to satisfy, but the characters don't no that.  With supernatural beings like the Sidhe, who are bound to tell no direct lie, but famous for twisting around it, I might agree with you.  But not every character, supernatural or otherwise, is that focused on it.   :)
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"He [Bob] looked . . . quite ordinary, really. Tall, but not outrageously so; slender without being rail thin. He had decent shoulders and looked sort of familiar. He was dressed like James Dean—jeans, a white shirt, a leather biker’s jacket."  I wonder who Bob looks like, why he looks familiar.  Or is it tied in with the following:
“There’s the Bob I know and love,” I said. “Love, ick,” he replied. “And I am and I’m not. I mean, you get that I change based on who possesses the skull, right?” “Sure,” I said. “So I’m a lot like I was with you, even though I’m with Butters, because he met me back then. First impression and whatnot, highly important.”  Perhaps Bob's appearance is the amalgamation of past and present owners.

In other part Harry said he looked like Butters, so I guess the familiarity comes from there. I don't think Bob can have children.
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You'll have to forgive me I didn't read all the comments so I hope I am not repeating something.

Serack, some questions for you if you can answer them.

I can only answer with my impressions.  Until I hear Jim say something at least.

Do you think Fitz will be able to control the change (or be trained to control it) or have his human consciousness afterward? 

I've already put some thought into this one, and I think that might be quite likely, although knowing how Jim treats Harry, he's going to get smacked around a bit before that can happen.

Does he have a soul or some mixed hybrid of one?

*raises eyebrows*  That is a good question...  Hmmm...  The closest thing to a scion we have seen soulgazed is Thomas I think, and that doesn't give us much of a precident imo...  I'd love to ask Jim, "If Fritz has his mother's eyes, can he be soulgazed?"  Maybe it should be "Can a scion of a wolf and a Loup Garou be soulgazed?"

Edit:  I'm pretty sure Harry has stated a few times how he wasn't worried about soulgazing a fae, and I think he made similar comments about the rampires... What other beings can he not soulgaze with?

Would this explain why he was able to hear Harry?

I'm using this as part of my argument for explaining his parentage, so yah I think that is very likely.  Stuart did say that 1 in 10 dogs can sense spirits.
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Not if you believe Gard in Heoroth.

I believe if Gard had meant to deny that outright she'd have denied it outright, and coy implications are not an outright denial.
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I'm using this as part of my argument for explaining his parentage, so yah I think that is very likely.  Stuart did say that 1 in 10 dogs can sense spirits.

But nothing of wolves, eh?  ;)

Methinks all of them can sense spirits.

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I believe if Gard had meant to deny that outright she'd have denied it outright, and coy implications are not an outright denial.

But they're so much more interesting to read.  :)

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In seriousness though, the other explanation is that they talk like real, normal people and not like they are on a witness stand where every syllable is going to be dissected for hidden meaning and binding literalism.

If you want to think centuries-old nonhuman beings are "like real normal people", then you seem to me to be open to be played.  The vampires, the Faerie, the angels, everybody takes advantage of Harry making that assumption left right and centre.
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