Author Topic: Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 46-FINISH **MAJOR SPOILERS**  (Read 258379 times)

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Re: Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 46-FINISH **MAJOR SPOILERS**
« Reply #510 on: February 11, 2012, 01:27:16 AM »
Plus, why would Lash want Dresden suicidal?
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Re: Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 46-FINISH **MAJOR SPOILERS**
« Reply #511 on: February 11, 2012, 06:01:29 AM »
We have confirmation that it was a genuine Fallen Angel, not the shadow of one.
Besides. Lash as the whisperer does not make sense.
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Re: Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 46-FINISH **MAJOR SPOILERS**
« Reply #512 on: February 12, 2012, 08:46:40 AM »
But the big question with Lasciel is how did she get out of the coin to whammy Harry?
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Re: Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 46-FINISH **MAJOR SPOILERS**
« Reply #513 on: February 12, 2012, 09:14:59 AM »
But the big question with Lasciel is how did she get out of the coin to whammy Harry?

Get a new host maybe? Nicodemus was probably desperate for more backup after Small Favour when it was just him and Dierdre.
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Re: Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 46-FINISH **MAJOR SPOILERS**
« Reply #514 on: February 12, 2012, 10:01:03 AM »
Get a new host maybe? Nicodemus was probably desperate for more backup after Small Favour when it was just him and Dierdre.
Lasciel could talk to Harry in death masks until he closed the circle. It could be that she is able to speak to Harry as soon as Nic breaks whatever wards the church had in place.
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Re: Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 46-FINISH **MAJOR SPOILERS**
« Reply #515 on: February 12, 2012, 03:50:57 PM »
But IIRC Thorned Namshiel stole the coins for Nic's wife.  Nic didn't get diddly, and I don't think Tessa trusts Lasciel enough to release her.
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Re: Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 46-FINISH **MAJOR SPOILERS**
« Reply #516 on: February 12, 2012, 04:02:32 PM »
But IIRC Thorned Namshiel stole the coins for Nic's wife.  Nic didn't get diddly, and I don't think Tessa trusts Lasciel enough to release her.

Lasciel would be in church storage. Nicodemus would have to hit them or one of the church would have to succumb to temptation.
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Re: Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 46-FINISH **MAJOR SPOILERS**
« Reply #517 on: February 20, 2012, 12:46:41 AM »
i forget wich book its in but they talk about justin being one of the wardens at kemmlers final stand. its also mentioned that he changed after. mabe harry didnt kill him but he took the bob and im sure justin was kemler triing to rebuild his army. by morgana i ment morgana lafae theres and kemler keeps getting brought up over and over hes not dead. if you go over old aurthurian is that the right word legends morgana was a necromancer she brought mordred back. or i could just be crazy

Yeah, I put a theory up about that earlier. I think Kemmler took over DuMorne when he (Kemmler) was killed (again) a la Corpsetaker/Butters. We know from Luccio that strength in magic is relative to the physical body (She is weaker than she was before, and can no longwr make swords).  I think DuMorne was the strongest body available at that moment. Kemmler then found Harry and Elaine, maybe planning to seize one of them. Harry escaped, and either overpowered DuMorne because he was that much stronger, or because he got help from Lea (I think this might have been mentioned in other books that she gave him power in exchange for a favor - I don't have the books handy to look that up). Anyway, I believe that Cowl is Kemmler, resurrected again.

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Re: Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 46-FINISH **MAJOR SPOILERS**
« Reply #518 on: February 20, 2012, 01:47:06 AM »
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We know from Luccio that strength in magic is relative to the physical body (She is weaker than she was before, and can no longwr make swords).  I think DuMorne was the strongest body available at that moment.

That's only for those who don't know what they're doing in the body swap, according to WoJ and Lea Corpsetaker was able to keep her full power if she was in a body with even a minor talent (and by WoJ she, and by extension Kemmler, were very good at keeping all their power when swapping bodies). Why would Kemmler lose any of his power inhabiting a full blown Wizard's body?

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or because he got help from Lea (I think this might have been mentioned in other books that she gave him power in exchange for a favor - I don't have the books handy to look that up).

He basically got a confidence boost from his deal with Lea.

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Anyway, I believe that Cowl is Kemmler, resurrected again.

If Cowl was Kemmler, he would have annihilated Harry and the Alphas whn they first met, not to mention not needing the Word.
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Re: Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 46-FINISH **MAJOR SPOILERS**
« Reply #519 on: March 06, 2012, 07:01:08 PM »
Has anyone considered that Harry's whole ghost experience was an elaborate hallucination?

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Re: Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 46-FINISH **MAJOR SPOILERS**
« Reply #520 on: March 06, 2012, 07:06:46 PM »
Has anyone considered that Harry's whole ghost experience was an elaborate hallucination?

I think that is very unlikely.
But I guess we will find out in the next book when he has to run into Murphy or Molly.
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Re: Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 46-FINISH **MAJOR SPOILERS**
« Reply #521 on: March 07, 2012, 07:36:13 PM »
I think that is very unlikely.
But I guess we will find out in the next book when he has to run into Murphy or Molly.
I ask this because I can see Molly coping badly with his disappearance, but not Murphy, she has seen him do the impossible before and escape death.

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Re: Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 46-FINISH **MAJOR SPOILERS**
« Reply #522 on: March 07, 2012, 07:42:32 PM »
I ask this because I can see Molly coping badly with his disappearance, but not Murphy, she has seen him do the impossible before and escape death.

Yes she has but she has never seen him actually die. And she has feelings for him. His death would greatly affect her.
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Re: Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 46-FINISH **MAJOR SPOILERS**
« Reply #523 on: March 07, 2012, 08:10:21 PM »
Yes she has but she has never seen him actually die. And she has feelings for him. His death would greatly affect her.
The solution I thought JB would go with was that as Harry went into the water the cold preserved him long enough for his body to recover and this was his mind's way of coping. However being kidnapped by Mab and Demonreach works too.
Just remains to be seen if being the Winter Knight presses the reset button for the Blue Beetle and his old home.
As you say, we will just have to wait. 

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Re: Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 46-FINISH **MAJOR SPOILERS**
« Reply #524 on: March 07, 2012, 11:24:34 PM »
Has anyone considered that Harry's whole ghost experience was an elaborate hallucination?

No, we have Woj's that the stuff we saw actually happened.
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