The Slayer

[dbrowne1974]

Hello all just a few questions.  Starting a game up and I wanted to play a Slayer(as in Buffy).  Not sure what to give her, I was thinking Inhuman Toughness, Strength, and Recovery.  Not sure what kind of stunts tho.  Skills I "kinda" know where I want to put them so that's the easy part.  Thanks in advance.

[BumblingBear]

Hello all just a few questions.  Starting a game up and I wanted to play a Slayer(as in Buffy).  Not sure what to give her, I was thinking Inhuman Toughness, Strength, and Recovery.  Not sure what kind of stunts tho.  Skills I "kinda" know where I want to put them so that's the easy part.  Thanks in advance.

Slayers are kinda weak compared to the DF universe.  I'd go with inhuman toughness, strength, and some sort of power to recognize vampires.

She should have at least1 stunt in martial arts - probably two.  I'd definitely give her martial weapons affecting stakes, swords, and staves.

That is -6 refresh right there.

She should have a high athletics skill - but not inhuman speed.

I would also give her -1 Slayer Recovery And give her the trappings of the power that don't actually make one heal faster.  Like... increased vitality and an extra minor consequence or something.

That would come out to -7.  I think that would be about appropriate for a slayer.

[ways and means]

i think  Buffy would be at least submerged and very specialised, I would rate her at Supernatural Strength (she wields a gods oversized hammer and is stronger than most buffyverse vampires who have inhuman strength).  I would also give her  Slayer training stunts along the lines of a stunt to give +1 to hit Vampires and a  stunt to do +2 damage to vampires when you hit.  

[BumblingBear]

i think  Buffy would be at least submerged and very specialised, I would rate her at Supernatural Strength (she wields a gods oversized hammer and is stronger than most buffyverse vampires who have inhuman strength).  I would also give her  Slayer training stunts along the lines of a stunt to give +1 to hit Vampires and a  stunt to do +2 damage to vampires when you hit.  

"A Slayer" is not Buffy.

I like the stunt ideas, though.

[Belial666]

Assume a human with good might but not near world-class level. Most healthy, strong, young people with a bit of training could be one of those.
If she has Inhuman Strength, she could now lift motorcycles and cars with some effort, or punch through weak interior walls. Her unarmed strikes are comparable to sledgehammers in damage. The same human with Supernatural Strength can lift heavy cars overhead without effort or punch through heavy exterior walls with ease. Her unarmed strikes are comparable to grenades. With Mythic Strength, she could peel off vault doors one handed and use them as a weapon. A light, off-hand weapon. Her unarmed strikes are comparable to the main gun of light to medium tanks.

Assuming average hits (attack equals the defense) and good endurance, this is also true;
Someone with Inhuman Toughness can take four grenades or being hit by a speeding car a couple of times and not take any consequences. They can ignore brass knuckles and knives entirely. With Supernatural Toughness, one can take hits from the gun of a main battle tank more than once. They may ignore many muscle-powered weapons wielded by humans and civilian firearms. With Mythic Toughness, one could be hit by heavy artillery 2-3 times before taking consequences. They may ignore all human muscle-powered weapons and any firearms less than grenade launchers or heavy machineguns.


Using the above as a reference, Buffy should have Inhuman Strength and a good or great Might score plus Inhuman Toughness and Inhuman Speed for her acrobatics plus superb fists and athletics - maybe True Strike. A few martial arts stunts as she develops. Normal Buffyverse vampires have watered down Inhuman Strength, maybe full Inhuman Strength plus Inhuman Toughness. Master vampires and demons have Supernatural Toughness and Strength with (usually) low base skills or Inhuman abilities with high base skills. Not even greater demons like Illyria would have Mythic Strength, through they might have Mythic Toughness. But it would be really rare. They'd probably have Supernatural power levels coupled with Fantastic or Epic skills.

[MorkaisChosen]

What Catch would you put on their Inhuman Toughness?

[Tsunami]

I think Slayers would have basically all the Inhuman Powers (Strength, Speed, Toughness, Recovery) add some form of vampire sense and something to represent the remnants of the memories of former slayers, and your'e done on the powers side.
The actual power that Buffy displays in the Series varies a lot, but these are all in line with what can be seen there.

Any other abilities are represented by skills and stunts.
High Fists and Weapons or maybe the "Armed Arts" Stunt, and high Athletics.
Add decent Alertness and you more or less have the required skills finished off.
The rest can be used to actually make a Character, and not an Archetype.

Catch... dunno, afaik Slayers have no catch. So it would have to be +0.
There is this one episode in season 3 ("Helpless") where she looses her powers, maybe what happens there can be used as a catch. But it would still be +0.

"A Slayer" is not Buffy.

When i comes to powers, then "A Slayer" is Buffy. Buffy would have loads more points of refresh to buy stunts, and more skills than a newbie-Slayer, but power wise they are all more or less the same.
I'm talking tv series Buffy here... The comics are another thing altogether.

[charlesperez]

In the fifth season, Spike explains to Buffy how he was able to kill two slayers. It comes down to slayers having a latent death wish; this is explained in detail in the relevant episode. So, I would propose the catch being Slayer's Death Wish, met by maneuvering a psychological aspect "Seduced by the Death Wish" into place and then invoking it for effect to bypass a slayer's Toughness and Recovery. Its worth would be: +0 for Toughness powers being good against anything but that, +2 for anyone potentially being able to evoke it, and +0 for pretty much having to know a slayer personally to figure it out in the first place.

Charles

[MorkaisChosen]

In the fifth season, Spike explains to Buffy how he was able to kill two slayers. It comes down to slayers having a latent death wish; this is explained in detail in the relevant episode. So, I would propose the catch being Slayer's Death Wish, met by maneuvering a psychological aspect "Seduced by the Death Wish" into place and then invoking it for effect to bypass a slayer's Toughness and Recovery. Its worth would be: +0 for Toughness powers being good against anything but that, +2 for anyone potentially being able to evoke it, and +0 for pretty much having to know a slayer personally to figure it out in the first place.

Charles

Sounds doable- though if you're only taking one of Inhuman Toughness and Recovery, you're down to one point of refund as you're only spending two...

[hank the ancient]

"A Slayer" is not Buffy.

I Would definitely agree with this. Summers would have racked up fate points out the whazoo.

[Viatos]

Worth noting that Buffy's power level varied dramatically throughout the series depending on who wrote the episode. Some days a lone, generic vampire would knock her around for a while before being put down. Once, she killed like five vampires in an alleyway with a pool cue or something before any of them could react. She is normally not shown with unnatural speed, except when it's convenient or dramatic for her to outrun moving vehicles or catch daggers she wasn't even looking at.

The core of a Slayer's abilities seem to be Supernatural Sense and the Strength/Speed/Toughness suite. Rather then try to gauge where a slayer SHOULD fit, decide where you want yours to fit.

[Tsunami]

Worth noting that Buffy's power level varied dramatically throughout the series depending on who wrote the episode. Some days a lone, generic vampire would knock her around for a while before being put down. Once, she killed like five vampires in an alleyway with a pool cue or something before any of them could react. She is normally not shown with unnatural speed, except when it's convenient or dramatic for her to outrun moving vehicles or catch daggers she wasn't even looking at.

The core of a Slayer's abilities seem to be Supernatural Sense and the Strength/Speed/Toughness suite. Rather then try to gauge where a slayer SHOULD fit, decide where you want yours to fit.

^This

_{With the addition that, imho, recovery should be part of the package. It comes up several times in the series.}

[Viatos]

With the addition that, imho, recovery should be part of the package. It comes up several times in the series.

Yeah, sorry. I always bundle that with Toughness mentally.

[Ren]

Could always give them a small core of abilities (Senses and Recovery) and make the rest a Modular Power that shifts around as needed or maybe dependent on mood, stress-levels etc...i.e. add a catch to it like "Mood-Phased" If she were angry she would be stronger and maybe tougher, if she were bored she'd be faster and recover quicker, if she were defending someone she cared about she might become extra tough (Superhuman instead of just Inhuman).

[Cyberchihuahua]

I think having being "The Slayer" should apply as the toughness catch no a number of Buffyverse creatures.