Where would YOU like Jim to appear?

[kingpaul]

Isn't New York part of New England?

Heh. I've had folks threaten me with a beating, IRL, for asking that. 

[Starbeam]

Huh.  Coulda sworn NY was part of it.

[fantazero]

Huh.  Coulda sworn NY was part of it.

Heh, no. Not at all
Isnt New Jersey part of New York? Sure smells like it.
Lol

[Fyrchick]

Isn't New York part of New England?

I meant all five forum members. There might be 6 if I count the one I know who doesn't pop in often.
And although NY is TECHNICALLY part of New England, the rest of NE considers them part of "not us."

[fantazero]

New York is a middle colony, they never have and never will be part of New England.
Cite me something that says otherwise.

Lived in Boston for 2 1/2 years.

[Fyrchick]

New York is a middle colony, they never have and never will be part of New England.
Cite me something that says otherwise.

Lived in Boston for 2 1/2 years.

I think they include NY because it is fairly northern. HOWEVER, try getting Mainers to admit NE includes more than VT and NH is like pulling hen's teeth! NY will nev-ah be considered New England.

[fantazero]

No New York is a Mid Atlantic State.
really this is killing me. New York is not part of New England
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

[Fyrchick]

No New York is a Mid Atlantic State.
really this is killing me. New York is not part of New England
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not saying NY is part of NE. However many people think of the Northeast states and NE as the same thing. They also think Canada is South, so you know...

[Piotr1600]

Here's why:
York = England so: New York = New England

Simple no?      
Yet another example of logic being a way to go wrong with confidence...

[Shecky]

No New York is a Mid Atlantic State.
really this is killing me. New York is not part of New England
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

Upstate NY bears far more resemblance to New England than to the mid-Atlantic or midwestern states. Just sayin'.

[Starbeam]

Upstate NY bears far more resemblance to New England than to the mid-Atlantic or midwestern states. Just sayin'.

Big part of why I was thinking that.  And even after living in New England for 12 years, I still never remember where it ends.

[Shecky]

Big part of why I was thinking that.  And even after living in New England for 12 years, I still never remember where it ends.

The borders of NYC itself and NJ are the absolute final cutoff, in my thinking. Upstate NY fades out of New Englandism as it gets closer to the Lakes, but eastern upstate is very much New Englandish.

[Katty]

Upstate NY bears far more resemblance to New England than to the mid-Atlantic or midwestern states. Just sayin'.

Sort of like southern Virginia is more like the South than the Mid-Atlantic?

[Shecky]

Sort of like southern Virginia is more like the South than the Mid-Atlantic?

"Mid-Atlantic", to me, is just about a myth; I fail to see any unifying aspect of the supposed "mid-Atlantic" states other than geographical convenience. The Mason-Dixon Line is actually a lot more accurate for broad grouping.

[Katty]

Not really.  Maryland and Delaware have more in common with states above the Mason-Dixon line.  So does Northern Virginia.  Maybe Mid-Atlantic should just refer to those three.  :-D