Character Creation Help - Lesser Dragon

[Tbora]

Okay here is character I have been trying to put together for an 18 refresh campaign with 60 skill points. capped at Fantastic.Mostly I need help with its skills, but I already have the powers worked out.

Powers:

 [-1] Claws
 [-2] Breath Weapon: Fire (Fire in Human Form is generated by the hands and mouth, in his Dragon transformation, just his mouth.)
 [-3] Supernatural Senses: Broad Senses
 [+1] Human Form

The above is what he has restricted to his Human From, in his Dragon state he has the following in addition to the powers above (minus the the Human Form of coarse.)

 [-2] Hulking Size
 [-4] Superhuman Strength
 [-4] Superhuman Recovery
 [-4] Superhuman Toughness
 [+3] Catch: Vulnerable Underbelly (Something that can pierce his stomache [ie something sharp] is common so +2 and anyone who looks up mythology on Dragons could learn of this weakness so +1.)
 [-1] Wings

 Total Refresh: -17

What do you think people?

[Deadmanwalking]

Broad Senses is only -2, actually. I'd also take Evocation instead of Breath Weapon. It's likely to be a more effective and appropriate version. These two nicely balance out.

I might keep Inhuman Strength and Recovery in human form, I just can't imagine a dragon not keeping some of that.

Personally, I might also drop Recovery to Inhuman, and buy a couple of Refinements for Evocation.

All told, it'd look something like this:

Skills:

Fantastic: Fists, Discipline
Superb: Conviction, Endurance, Presence,
Great: Athletics, Intimidation, Lore,
Good: Alertness, Rapport, Resources,
Fair: Contacts, Might, Scholarship,
Average: Craftsmanship, Empathy, Investigation, Stealth, Survival, Weapons (Note: The Average skills are arbitrary)

Powers:

[-3] Evocation
[-2] Refinement
[-2] Inhuman Strength
[-2] Inhuman Recovery
[-2] Supernatural Sense: Broad Senses

[+1] Human Form, effecting:
[-1] Claws
[-2] Hulking Size
[-2] Supernatural Strength
[-4] Supernatural Toughness
[+3] Catch: Vulnerable Underbelly (Something that can pierce is stomache ie something sharp is common so +2 and anyone who looks up mythology on Dragons could learn of this weakness so +1.)
[-1] Wings

Total: -17 Refresh

Specializations:

Evocation (Air, Fire, Spirit); Control (Fire +1), Power (Fire +2)

Focus Items:

Golden Torc/Collar [+1 Offensive and Defensive Control and Power for Fire]

Enchanted Items:

Magic Ring (6 shift Block or Armor 3, three times per session) [4 Enchanted Item Slots]

Stress:

Mental: OOOO (+1 Mild Consequence)
Physical: OOOO/OOOOOO(OOOO) (+1 Mild Consequence)
Social: OOOO (+1 Mild Consequence)
Armor: 0/2 more with Magic.


You could also forego a level of Refinement (and probably the Ring) for Beast Change, and get two entirely different skill pyramids for your two forms, if you wished.

[Tbora]

I did it the way I did (the powers I mean) from the information on Lesser Dragons in Our World.It said breathweapon was a must as is superhuman recovery, toughness, and strength although I see why you did it that way. If you were to go with beast change, how would you do it?

[Deadmanwalking]

Well, Lesser Dragons as of that also lacks a Human Form, so I think a bit of modification is in order. 

And something like this, assuming his animal nature is a bit nearer in Dragon Form and he needs hands to access some of his money:

Skills:

Human:

Fantastic: Athletics, Discipline
Superb: Conviction, Lore, Presence,
Great: Fists, Rapport, Resources
Good: Alertness, Endurance, Scholarship,
Fair: Contacts, Intimidation, Might,
Average: Craftsmanship, Empathy, Investigation, Stealth, Survival, Weapons

Dragon:

Fantastic: Fists, Discipline
Superb: Athletics, Conviction, Endurance,
Great: Alertness, Lore, Intimidation,
Good: Might, Presence, Rapport,
Fair: Contacts, Resources, Scholarship, Survival,
Average: Craftsmanship, Empathy, Investigation, Stealth,

Powers:

[-3] Evocation
[-1] Refinement
[-2] Inhuman Strength
[-2] Inhuman Recovery
[-2] Supernatural Sense: Broad Senses
[-1] Beast Change

[+1] Human Form, effecting:
[-1] Claws
[-2] Hulking Size
[-2] Supernatural Strength
[-4] Supernatural Toughness
[+3] Catch: Vulnerable Underbelly (Something that can pierce is stomache ie something sharp is common so +2 and anyone who looks up mythology on Dragons could learn of this weakness so +1.)
[-1] Wings

Total: -17 Refresh

Specializations:

Evocation (Air, Fire, Spirit); Control (Fire +1), Power (Fire +2)

Focus Items:

Golden Torc/Collar [+1 Offensive and Defensive Control and Power for Fire]

Stress:

Mental: OOOO (+1 Mild Consequence)
Physical: OOOO/OOOOOO(OOOO) (+1 Mild Consequence)
Social: OOOO (+1 Mild Consequence)/ OOOO
Armor: 0/2 more with Magic.

[Tbora]

In Dragon Form, shouldn't his might be a lot higher?

[Deadmanwalking]

Possibly, but with the rise to Supernatural Strength and Hulking Size he has an effective Might of 11 (as opposed to 5 in human form) for lifting, which is enough to casually lift or break almost anything. If you want to be able to break anything, be better at Grapples, and use motorcycles as thrown weapons you can switch out Might to Superb and Endurance to Good.

[Tbora]

I'd probably do Lore to Good, Endurence to Great, and Might at Superb.He IS a dragon after all, so he should be strong.

Ideally I'd like to give him Supernatural Recovery in place of Inhuman, and up his Strength to Mythic, I just need to figure out how to do it...

[Deadmanwalking]

Well, you could take Feeding Dependency (Magical Energy) on Evocation and Refinement, that'd net you +1 and make sense (the dragon absorbs magical energy from it's environment, somewhat unlike a human caster)...

That and skipping Beast Change would net you either of the two (I'd go Mythic Strength).


How much do you need Broad Senses? That's the only other thing I can see dropping for Supernatural Recovery.

[Tbora]

The above works, and I don't really need Broad Senses, its just there for flavor, so there we go.

[Deadmanwalking]

That'd look like something like this, possibly with some skill changes:

Skills:

Fantastic: Fists, Discipline
Superb: Athletics, Conviction, Endurance,
Great: Intimidation, Lore, Might,
Good: Alertness, Presence, Rapport,
Fair: Contacts, Resources, Scholarship,
Average: Craftsmanship, Empathy, Investigation, Stealth, Survival, Weapons

Powers:

[-2] Inhuman Strength
[-4] Supernatural Recovery

[+1] Feeding Dependency (Magic) effecting:
[-3] Evocation
[-1] Refinement

[+1] Human Form, effecting:
[-1] Claws
[-2] Hulking Size
[-4] Mythic Strength
[-4] Supernatural Toughness
[+3] Catch: Vulnerable Underbelly (Something that can pierce is stomache ie something sharp is common so +2 and anyone who looks up mythology on Dragons could learn of this weakness so +1.)
[-1] Wings

Total: -17 Refresh

Specializations:

Evocation (Air, Fire, Spirit); Control (Fire +1), Power (Fire +2)

Focus Items:

Golden Torc/Collar [+1 Offensive and Defensive Control and Power for Fire]

Stress:

Mental: OOOO (+1 Mild Consequence)
Physical: OOOO/OOOOOO(OOOO) (+1 Mild Consequence)
Social: OOOO
Armor: 0/2 more with Magic.

[Tbora]

Now...that is a badass, presumably he should be able to eat magic (spells) tossed at him to feed his need for magic?

Mostly he is a physical fighter, so his skills should be optimized towards that.

[Deadmanwalking]

If he successfully used Evocation to defend against or counter them? Yeah, that ought to work.

In that case I'll rearrange things a little. One moment.

EDIT: And rearranged. His defense against ranged attacks is a bit sub-par sans magic, but that's inevitable on a Hulking Size character without any speed powers and he's got the magic to back him up, which is cool.

[Tbora]

How would you do a middle management level Wyld Sidhe Lord?

[Deadmanwalking]

Depends on his thematic purview. Is he a lord of Crops, the Hunt, Craftsmanship, what?

A Baron in the Erlking's service is going to look a lot different from a Brownie Lord who works for St. Nicholas.

I'm assuming this, too, would be 60 skills, 18 Refresh?

[Tbora]

Refresh and Skill Point range is right, I have him as a Lord of Warfare, Battle, and Violence.

EDIT: Whoops, I made a mistake he isn't a Lord of the Hunt, meant it to be Lord of Warfare