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Re: DISPROVE THIS
« Reply #120 on: June 02, 2010, 08:38:23 PM »
Quibbling is definitely not what I'd be doing over those potatoes. Drooling? Yes. Savoring? Probably. Chomping on them like Cookie Monster? Abso-friggin-lutely.

(Red Russets are my second favorite potato.)



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Re: DISPROVE THIS
« Reply #121 on: June 02, 2010, 08:41:34 PM »
But the "depending on the person" IS my point. I don't see why you're agreeing yet applying the label of "false" when I not only used the term "most" but pointed it out. Saying that it's partially false because you believe you're an exception is like my saying "Some people lie" and your responding "That's partly false, because I don't lie". See?

The first and second sentences there are diametrically opposed to the third. Did the third perhaps fail to specify "a lot of pain from others/society"?


No, because quite frankly I consider myself alot smarter than most of the populace and able to get away with (ie NOT GET CAUGHT AT) a great many crimes and societal taboos if I engaged in them.   My first thought isn't "but what if i get caught and they put me in federal pound me in the butthole jail?" its "how could I ever look at myself in the mirror after I did that?" followed by "plus if you didn't do it right you'd get caught."
Its an afterthought not a main cause.
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« Reply #122 on: June 02, 2010, 08:45:22 PM »
No, because quite frankly I consider myself alot smarter than most of the populace and able to get away with (ie NOT GET CAUGHT AT) a great many crimes and societal taboos if I engaged in them.   My first thought isn't "but what if i get caught and they put me in federal pound me in the butthole jail?" its "how could I ever look at myself in the mirror after I did that?" followed by "plus if you didn't do it right you'd get caught."
Its an afterthought not a main cause.

But is that "how could I look at myself in the mirror" thought in addition to society's influence, or BECAUSE of society's influence?
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Re: DISPROVE THIS
« Reply #123 on: June 02, 2010, 08:50:15 PM »
So wait, Molly is society now?  Soy confusado.

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« Reply #124 on: June 02, 2010, 08:53:28 PM »
But is that "how could I look at myself in the mirror" thought in addition to society's influence, or BECAUSE of society's influence?


I think its because I'd be disgusted with myself for the actions I commited.   Whether thats nature or nurture is a tad above my speculatory paygrade (but i'd be willing to go with nurture for the most part and perhaps an inborn protective instinct as a supplement), and is fairly moot in any case since we aren't talking about an individual in state of nature (where there would be no society to foist those pesky morals on us) but an individual that exists in society.  
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Re: DISPROVE THIS
« Reply #125 on: June 02, 2010, 09:13:36 PM »
The use of rape as an example in this discussion ends right now. Touchy topic. Don't go there.
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Re: DISPROVE THIS
« Reply #126 on: June 02, 2010, 09:18:55 PM »
So in Changes, when
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Re: DISPROVE THIS
« Reply #127 on: June 02, 2010, 09:19:03 PM »
point taken.






Back on topic of OP:  I like the time travel theory, if for no other reason than I like molly's character and would love the development it would take to get her from Molly to Mab.
Somehow I don't see it happening though.


Conversely, maybe harry is the Erlking (or thomas)?     Same situation of problematic time travel, just sub in harry (or thomas since he's a hunter) for molly and erl for mab.     Think about it, the erlking is such a bad mofo, but one of the aspects mentioned about him is that he's a PROTECTOR OF CHILDREN.   Sound like anyone we know?
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Re: DISPROVE THIS
« Reply #128 on: June 02, 2010, 09:19:44 PM »
So when Harry eats potato hash browns in front of Marcone while Molly is waiting in the car, does that make Hendricks and Gard Cowl and Kumori?

This discussion is confusing.


it does indeed, but only if the potato hash browns have bacon and cheese on them.    The bacon is the dead giveaway  ;D
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Re: DISPROVE THIS
« Reply #129 on: June 02, 2010, 09:21:01 PM »
Did we ever get this statement sorted out?


"Who NEVER uses whatsoever power they have to get what they want? = Who wouldn't use whatsoever power they have to get what they want."

Because they do not equal each other. "Who NEVER uses whatsoever power they have to get what they want? = Who is so pure that they have NEVER, EVER used power to get what they want?"

Cause I my eyes start to glaze over when people argue different arguments and they think they're arguing the same point.
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Re: DISPROVE THIS
« Reply #130 on: June 02, 2010, 09:26:05 PM »
Did we ever get this statement sorted out?


"Who NEVER uses whatsoever power they have to get what they want? = Who wouldn't use whatsoever power they have to get what they want."

Because they do not equal each other. "Who NEVER uses whatsoever power they have to get what they want? = Who is so pure that they have NEVER, EVER used power to get what they want?"

Cause I my eyes start to glaze over when people argue different arguments and they think they're arguing the same point.

I took that statement to read the same as "Who DOESNT" use whatsoever etc   
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Re: DISPROVE THIS
« Reply #131 on: June 02, 2010, 09:27:47 PM »
I think people use what advantages they have to achieve their goals. Criminals/psychotics may be more harmful, but taller people can reach higher shelves and get struck by lightning first.
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Re: DISPROVE THIS
« Reply #132 on: June 02, 2010, 09:29:32 PM »
Did we ever get this statement sorted out?


"Who NEVER uses whatsoever power they have to get what they want? = Who wouldn't use whatsoever power they have to get what they want."

Because they do not equal each other. "Who NEVER uses whatsoever power they have to get what they want? = Who is so pure that they have NEVER, EVER used power to get what they want?"

Cause I my eyes start to glaze over when people argue different arguments and they think they're arguing the same point.

No, no, no, it's all wrong.

Who NEVER eats potatoes whatsoever power will get to date the past future present Molly, who really wants Harry.

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Re: DISPROVE THIS
« Reply #133 on: June 02, 2010, 09:30:50 PM »
Long as Molly keeps her hair dyed to something dark, I'm okay with dating her ;0

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Re: DISPROVE THIS
« Reply #134 on: June 02, 2010, 10:08:38 PM »
So in Changes, when
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