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Soul Gaze on Nicodemus/Harry isn’t a reliable narrator
« on: December 02, 2022, 07:56:20 PM »
What would Harry have seen if he had accepted the sould gaze with Nic?  Nicodemus is clearly a “bad guy” willing to harm anyone to further his goals.  But he seems more an “ends justify the means” asshole than someone who delights in what he does.  Harry clearly isn’t a reliable narrator given his misjudge of people like Hendricks. 

What would Harry have seen… what is Nic’s real goal?
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Re: Soul Gaze on Nicodemus/Harry isn’t a reliable narrator
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2022, 12:44:04 PM »

  Interesting thought, he has soul gazed a Denarian before, it was an accident, but what he saw he didn't like.  He didn't have too much to say about the host except to say the man was totally in control of the Fallen.  It was that vision that saved him in many ways to totally giving into Lasciel.  Now supposedly Nic is a partner and not a slave of Andriel, but would a soul gaze verify that?

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Re: Soul Gaze on Nicodemus/Harry isn’t a reliable narrator
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2022, 09:18:08 PM »
But what did the Fallen see?

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Re: Soul Gaze on Nicodemus/Harry isn’t a reliable narrator
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2022, 01:05:47 AM »
But what did the Fallen see?

We’d all love to know that answer…
"Maybe there will be a laundry emergency at the Carpenter house, and Harry shows up with detergent saying, 'I am Harry of the White Council. And I come back to you now at the turn of the TideTM.'" -  Vairelome 9/25/2011

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Re: Soul Gaze on Nicodemus/Harry isn’t a reliable narrator
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2022, 05:14:30 AM »
Would Harry even see anything... is Nik too far gone?

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Re: Soul Gaze on Nicodemus/Harry isn’t a reliable narrator
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2022, 05:52:41 PM »
Would Harry even see anything... is Nik too far gone?
Nicodemus Archleone is still there, and still capable of redemption; if he weren't, he wouldn't be a viable host for a Blackened Denarius.  Mr. Sunshine takes a pretty strong stance on that kind of "cheating."

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Re: Soul Gaze on Nicodemus/Harry isn’t a reliable narrator
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2022, 06:55:00 PM »
Nicodemus Archleone is still there, and still capable of redemption; if he weren't, he wouldn't be a viable host for a Blackened Denarius.  Mr. Sunshine takes a pretty strong stance on that kind of "cheating."

As we've seen it isn't that simple, giving up his noose and coin is only the first step on the road to redemption.