Elaine pentacle amulet

[Kindler]

Uhm, Harry learned his philosophy from Ebenezar, sure - but partly so did Margaret, his mother, even if she clearly veered off quite a bit from Ebenezar's ideas. Hence there's a pretty good chance her pentacle means exactly what Harry thinks

My argument against that is Ebenezer's lessons to Harry didn't seem to stick to Margaret, going from what we've learned about her. It's uncertain what her actual philosophy was.

[Avernite]

My argument against that is Ebenezer's lessons to Harry didn't seem to stick to Margaret, going from what we've learned about her. It's uncertain what her actual philosophy was.

Maybe, though she did eventually come back to the good side of town, where I imagine she might've suddenly remembered the "told you so" advice of her father.

[wardenferry419]

Yeah, it's possible she was raised by a single parent, away from Justin, who eventually tracked her down.

That possibility aside, I find it very hard to believe that Justin wouldn't use his biological paternity as leverage against Elaine in his manipulation; orphans are starving for familial affection. If Justin told Elaine that he was her father, he very, very likely wouldn't have ever felt the need to even try to thrall her.

Daughters sometimes have issues with absentee father figures.