Grey Council vs. Circle

[wardenferry419]

Maggie Sr.?

[raidem]

Yeah. Maggie Sr. would definitely be on that list at least at one time. (Circle)
She became subordinate to Lord Raith though.

[Quantus]

Was Peabody forgotten, or are there theories of him being something else?

On the RCV King, I kinda suspect Ariananna was the conniving one that allied with outside forces to climb the Pyramid.  The RCV King was already on the top of his chosen Hill, and wasnt practical enough to recognize threats insurmountable enough to need allies. 

[raidem]

I got the impression that it was the RCV King that was on the Circle and not Arianna.  Or maybe it was the RCV King that was dealing with the Outsiders and Arianna was opposed to it.  In any event, I believe Arianna and Ortega were 'conservatives' in the RCV court.  The RCV King was reaching out to new allies, whether that was the Circle or Outsiders I do not know.  The King made some comment about Arianna not changing with the times.

[peregrine]

There's also a bit of confusion over whether or not the Circle that the Red Court King is involved in is The Circle that is also what Harry calls the Black Council, or just the Red Court's inner circle.

[raidem]

Yep.  I think they were different things.  The eebs were referring to something where they needed to be of the first Mayan to get entry into the circle.  I doubt this is the black circle bit rather something along the lines of the Lord's of outer night or some such level among rcv hierarchy.