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Messages - Argonometra

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DF Spoilers / Re: Jim Butcher interview from 2 months ago
« on: May 07, 2018, 09:37:36 AM »
Harry's strength's: Direct magic, and magic that requires time, investment, and love. 

moar skull babies down the line?

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DF Spoilers / Re: Who is the most evil character in the Dresdenverse?
« on: November 30, 2017, 02:24:16 PM »
Morgan.

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DF Spoilers / Re: WK Mantle or Lawbreaker taint?
« on: July 01, 2017, 02:53:23 AM »
Harry doesn't have murderous tendencies..

No, there was that SG scene in the car where he was tempted to go out and kill some 'threat to his territory' or whatever.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: There You Are
« on: May 29, 2016, 11:22:09 PM »
Great, now I have the Portal turrets stuck in my head.

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But in general the celts were very warrior/cleric types.


80% of Celts were corn farmers. (http://resourcesforhistory.com/Celtic_Farming_in_Britain.htm)

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and a circle of tree's for 'shady business. If you know anything about Celtic worship that's a big one, they pray in the middle of trees

How is prayer equivalent to crime?

@EG I prefer to think of Harry as the choosing one instead lol. It's possible, because most of Harry is the chosen one is perception, that Harry won't be the central hero, for the end at all, but more akin to the immenence Gris, the power behind the hero.

Harry is identified with Sam and Gandalf, as well as knights in general. All have 'support' roles, protecting and/or inspiring the people they serve.
That is one reason why I like his assumption of the Mantle: he was always Molly's knight, even though he wasn't the paladin she idealized him as. In that respect, little changed.

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It's easy figuring out what one should do, what is right. Mustering up the courage and strength to actually do it- that isn't so easy.

as the hero, marcone for instance is the person to watch

Marcone can kill monsters, but that does not define a hero. He could not have found Lash's heart, or encouraged a panicking Butters, or comforted Kelly as Harry did- these actions matter too. Maybe more than the slaying, because it's many heroes who will fight at Ragnarok- not just a single Chosen One*.
And at the end of the day, Marcone is still a parasite by choice. I don't think that getting magic Chosen One powers would change that- or that he deserves them on any moral, intellectual, or spiritual basis. It's not like there's one slot for a hero and Harry is occupying it, so Marcone can't be one. It's that, knowingly and repeatedly, he made the choice to profit on the suffering of others. And if Harry were absent/evil/dead, Marcone would still make those choices.
It's not like they're fighting over who gets to sit on a particular chair.

* and the mercenaries who want his money

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you actually find Harry is only chosen because of his specific actions or 'path'

Aye. The idea that Harry has no more tenacity than your average joe, or that just anybody would do what he's done...it rings false to me. There are plenty of times in the series when most people would give up, or switch sides, but Harry doesn't. Even when his back was broken, when his house was destroyed, he never truly gave up. 'He died doing the right thing.'
There are people like that in the world, but not many. Certainly not so much that we can consider their heroism ordinary.

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Whatever drove Harry there is certainly another question but could just as easily be chalked up to 'why not' Chicago?

It's a nearby city that has coffee and public TVs.

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I don't believe I asserted (or certainly didn't mean to) that his watching over Harry was meant to include intervention if he went evil necessarily or any such equivalent.

No, it was just an example I thought up.

probably preceded Harry's arrival in Chicago by millennia.

So is the Our World quote non-canonical, then? It says that he arrived only a few years before Harry.

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She called him the "Demon Binder" a couple times, seeing as she considered him the new Raphael-mantle bearer, despite him rumbling non-verbally at her several times that it is not, in fact, a mantle.  But did she listen?  NooOOoo.  It's all "mantle this, mantle that".

I feel your pain, bro.

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Your theory is very well cited, but I have one quibble: what is the point of sending someone to watch Dresden if that person can do nothing to influence and/or protect him? If Harry went evil, for example, I doubt Mac could do anything to neutralize him.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: He Couldn't Lose [SG Spoilers]
« on: July 01, 2015, 12:56:40 PM »
fae queens have intimated themselves into natural processes

If Harry is any indication, the Fae created and bear Mantles because of natural processes: to protect themselves, to protect others, to fight and/or survive better. Remember, Mab doesn't spend her days partying or swimming in mountains of gold: she fights Outsider incursions, she kills traitors, she disciplines the mightiest army Earth has ever known. ("Power has purpose," says Mother Winter in CD.)
Nature is not some flawless harmony where everybody gets what they want. Natural processes always conflict with each other- often to the detriment of nature itself- but that doesn't make them any less natural. It is natural for humans to dislike being cold (because cold is dangerous): therefore, it is natural for humans to build shelters. The resulting houses are no more artificial than the rain wearing them down.
Similarly, Mantle creation is a natural process. Unhealthy, yes- for the Fae involved, and perhaps even the world. But it is not unnatural, or unusual, for any creature to seek power.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: He Couldn't Lose [SG Spoilers]
« on: July 01, 2015, 05:25:13 AM »
Those things aren't from nature though.  They arise from the mantle, artificial constructs made by humans with black magic and human sacrifice. 

Yet these mantles manifest themselves through frost and blossoming flowers. If they're inventions of human sin, why aren't Summer Queens followed by streams of blood? Why is it that howling winds- not dying screams or tortured sobs- herald the Winter Lady's arrival?
Because the Mantles show themselves through clear natural phenomena, we may assume they are creations of nature. Natural creations? That remains to be seen. But there are plenty of situations where nature establishes a symbiotic relationship with human life and humanity's 'artificial' constructs.

A mantle isn't "nature"... it's a thing created with murder.

When Harry killed a man to protect his daughter, that was also nature. A natural instinct equal to any falcon call or palm leaf. Remember what his id said? "Protect the offspring."

But yes, nature always dominates in the end.  Because it is eternal.  What men create -- dams or mantles -- may last a very long time, but a finite amount of energy went into their creation. 

Humanity itself endures. The towers and dams don't matter, they're just byproducts of life- human life. Judging us by dams is like saying all Dalmatians are going extinct because dog shit can be washed away.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: He Couldn't Lose [SG Spoilers]
« on: July 01, 2015, 01:33:10 AM »
So we have humans who have stolen power via human sacrifice insinuating themselves into the natural order

If CD was any indication, we need to worry about the opposite. Harry struggles against the Winter Mantle (the 'natural order' personified) urging him to rape and kill. When Mab shows humanity, it is a rare and unnerving thing. The Summer Mantle overwhelms Lily, making her burn the landscape and attack indiscriminately- making her threaten the man her human side loves.
Nature is not the one being (ab)used here. It may not initiate Table rituals, but it certainly dominates their participants.

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