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DF Spoilers / Re: Harry Dresden's New Apprentice!!?!
« on: December 04, 2025, 04:50:07 PM »
Yes, the Shadow did in my opinion, the Shadow was Lasciel in Harry's head...

The Shadow wasn't actual Lasciel, nor Lasciel's presence.

It was a construct; built by Lasciel, but then independent & disconnected from the Fallen angel.
 

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DF Spoilers / Re: Harry Dresden's New Apprentice!!?!
« on: December 04, 2025, 04:40:19 PM »
You have to understand, it's implied from what Lash said at the end of White Night that she (and by extension Bonnie) has a great deal of information that is integral to the metaplot and can't be revealed just yet because it would make Harry's life to easy.

So instead she gets to be a genius with all the answers that is simultaneously too dumb to realize she has to hand them out until the last 3 chapters of whatever book they become relevant in.

...

Like, she has to be useless, or we don't get a story.

I think this is exactly correct.  Harry has to be kept ignorant, or he cannot be the investigator-protagonist.


... Just as an example, she 99% knows all about what a starborn is, she can probably tell Harry exactly what Nick's been up to, may well have a bunch of information about what the Black Council has been up to...
I don't think it's at all certain that Bonea knows everything Lash knew... but if she knows just half of what the Shadow knew, that'd be a huge trove of new data for Harry!  I kind of think Lash knew she could only send part of herself forward as Bonea, and tried to curate for Harry to have access to the most-useful bits; but OTOH there's also the likelihood that there may have been too much chaos & unpredictability to the event, and Lash couldn't control things completely that way.

I'm pretty certain that Lasciel's Shadow knew vastly less than what Lasciel herself knew!  The "Shadow" is an imprint within a mortal mind:  I don't think Angelic-scale knowledge fits in there!   ;D

But, as for finding out Nic (and Anduriel's) actions/agenda:  Bonea can only know what Lash knew, who can only know what Lasciel knew.  And we already have seen secrets & infighting between the Denarians... I'm pretty sure there are exactly zero other Denarians who have an accurate understanding of Anduriel's plans.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Harry Dresden's New Apprentice!!?!
« on: November 30, 2025, 04:09:48 AM »
... We are told that Bonnie has all of Lasciel's knowlege, and Harry's as well ...
Yeah, about that, too...

Absolutely not all of Lasciel's -- not a literal Fallen Angel -- maybe all of the Shadow's knowlege.

But I don't recall ever seeing a definitive "...all of..." statement:  a lot of the knowledge, sure.
But if Jim took (for example) biology/DNA as the model, Bonnie will have a largely-randomized half-from-Lash and half-from-Harry (Lash probably was able to organize which "half").

But I'm pretty sure Bonea won't suddenly become (for example) Harry's Guide to the Starborn Phenomenon; I do expect she'll have some highly-pertninent Starborn-relevant info, though!
 

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DF Spoilers / Re: Out lawn cover and preorder
« on: November 30, 2025, 04:05:14 AM »
... Yes, I think this may be the first cover where Harry isn't wearing a hat! ...
I suspect it's because it's a new publisher.  "The Law" and "Out Law" don't use Roc/Penguin.  I presume it's just easier all-round not to step on the toes of the artist who does all those novels, and their contract with Roc, etc etc etc.

Better -- as Jim isn't using those channels -- to do something wholly-different (I'm kind of hoping for Mirror Mirror to have a two-Harry cover, one hat-Harry & one hatless).

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DF Spoilers / Re: Harry Dresden's New Apprentice!!?!
« on: November 29, 2025, 11:03:11 PM »
... and it lives in a crudely carved wooden skull Harry meant to be Bob's new home, now since Bob is back with Harry, sort of redundant ...
Yeah, about that...
 ???
 ::)
Awfully convenient to have a custom-built spirit-housing all ready to go that way.
Almost... too convenient?

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DF Spoilers / Re: Can we see Rudy take up a sword
« on: November 24, 2025, 05:01:08 PM »
... and when he killed Murphy insane from fear.
TBH, I think that was just Rudy being incredibly stupid, and with abysmal trigger-discipline.

He didn't mean to shoot, he was just "twitchy," had his finger on the trigger when he shouldn't have... and twitched at the wrong moment.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Twelve Months, chapter one
« on: November 23, 2025, 08:14:53 PM »
A potential threat, yes. Which, in my opinion, is something Mab sees as a good thing.
Yes;  ^^^this^^^ !!
Mab is absolutely a "keep your friends close... and your enemies closer" kind of girly!

In particular, I recall the WoJ which stated that -- back in the day -- Mab chose Lea as her handmaiden because she saw Lea as the most-powerful rival / threat amongst all the potential Winterfae for the role.

Mab wanted Lea as a "whetstone" to keep herself always sharpened to her own keenest edge.
 

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DF Spoilers / Re: Can we see Rudy take up a sword
« on: November 23, 2025, 08:05:52 PM »
Its not rage bait. There has to be a reason he's been in so many storylines. Seriously, how many times has he been there to mess things up. How many books has he been in where he did the worst thing at the time but somehow escapes with no consequences. He even got promotions. Since book 1 he's been there.
1. Donald Morgan, dead
2. Murphy, dead
3. Bianca, dead
4. Carmichael, dead
5. Susan, dead
6. Marcone is alive.
Most of the characters in that book are dead. The rest have at some point helped Harry at some point. There has to be a reason. Do I despise Rudy? He might be one of my least favorite characters EVER. 

Narratively-speaking, I think Rudolph is beyond redemption; he is incapable of wielding a Sword.  But (also narratively-speaking) I think you may be onto something -- he's got remarkable longevity, given the threat-level going on.

It's possible he's only still there to provide someone to fully-despise and disdain; a full-on "villain" but not a serious "threat."

My own theory is that he's eventually going to be a thread that Harry can tug on, that will lead deep into  BBEG plotting.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Mirror Mirror Tracking on Butcher's official site!
« on: November 19, 2025, 03:46:03 AM »
... I can't even say I'm cautiously optimistic that the series will be done in less than 20 years even with the recent developments (Butcher already tracking progress of Mirror, Mirror; his statements that he plans to be done with MM before touring on Twelve Months).  And no matter what I can't envision he'd ever get back to a Dresden novel every 18-24 months ...

I'm "cautiously optimistic" for just a hair under 20 years, presuming his health holds up (he's pretty fit, but no longer a youngling) and he doesn't suffer life-disrupting tragedies or logistical obstacles.

I'm figuring a 15-18 month per novel pace; alternating DresdenFiles with CinderSpires (as he says is his plan on an ongoing basis), that'd be 30-36 months before we're all abuzz with "Fight Night tracking on Butcher's Official Site".  I don't think faster than that is at all likely; but I'd be thrilled to be proven wrong!

FN (or whatever the title is) will be vol.19 of the DF; then 20, 21, & 22; by my estimate (above) taking 120-144mo = 10-12 years to wrap up "the Dresden Files" proper.

Then the BigApocalypticTrilogy, which (at one point) Jim said he saw as one big story, and planned to write as one big push, not alternating other books; figuring the "same" per-novel-pace for 3-in-a-row, and presuming his "palate cleanser" novel between the DF proper and the BAT, that'd be another 60-72 months = 5-6 years.

So 15-18 years, if my Jim'stimates are right and I did my math right (and RL doesn't strike).


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DF Spoilers / Re: Twelve Months, chapter one
« on: November 19, 2025, 01:27:17 AM »
I am not so sure, Mab may begin to see Harry as a threat, especially allied with Molly ...
I suspect Mab of having the kind of monomaniacal fanaticism that puts "personal survival" somewhere below her own top-3 priorities.  By her lights, any Winterfae who can take her out deserve to inherit the Queen of Air and Darkness' mantle, and she hopes they are at least as innovative & tricky in fighting the Outsiders as they were in killing her...

... And don't think she didn't take note, like the White Council did, that Harry has his own pixie army loyal to him and that they can do plenty of damage ...
It's questionable how much they can actually oppose Mab.  Between CD & SG, Mab subverted all the Pixie-borne messengers Harry tried to send to Molly (trying to get Molly's help with "the parasite").

Of course Mab absolutely noticed Harry taking down Aurora via Pixie warband; she will have immediately developed countermeasures for that, and anything derivative (such as Captain Hook's nail javelins); also their work intercepting Ethniu's kamikazes on the castle-roof, and more.

Mab has been living and breathing Winterfae tactics & strategies for over a thousand years, so even if Harry comes up with novelties, she will adapt incredibly-quickly (and she has an incredibly-deep playbook to draw upon).
 

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DF Spoilers / Re: Twelve Months, chapter one
« on: November 17, 2025, 03:03:26 PM »
Or Mab is secretly hoping that Lara will kill Harry.
No, Mab has been spending a lot of her time and energy on building up Harry.

Remember, Mab is the commander-in-chief of the armies of the Outer Gates, and has been for most of 1000 years; the wheels are turning and the cycles coming 'round, and a Big Apocalyptic event with Outsiders is coming.  And there's nobody in the mortal realm ("mortal" being a necessity for the WK role) who can do the whole "Outsider fighting" gig like a Starborn.

Mab needs to forge Harry to be as good a weapon as possible, and she's harsh with him because she sees that harshness as the best way to weaponize him.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Who will hurt more emotionally for Harry?
« on: November 16, 2025, 05:12:50 PM »
...  For example, it's possible Alt-Murphy will draw a weapon and start shooting at Harry the moment she sees him, because Alt-Harry is one of the bad guys...
100% this.
We know that the decision causing the MM divergence happens "at the end of Grave Peril," but not what that decision is, or how close to the end of the novel.

But we know that Murphy got trapped by the Nightmare who Fake-Harry'ed its way in.  A year later in SK, she's still combining drugs & alcohol to damp things enough to get a night's sleep (that was a huge trauma for her) and if Mirror!Harry isn't as supportive after SK, this could be the souring of their relationship... Harry turns to darker paths, makes deeper compromises; Murphy trusts him less and less; and by the time Harry!Prime gets to the Mirrorverse, Murphy sees him solidly as a BadGuy.

That said, not a shoot-on-sight target; but certainly an armed-and-dangerous / hand-on-holster / do-not-trust individual.


Imagine a worse case scenario for Harry.  He is forced to kill Alt-Red Court Susan.  She won't be the youngest vampire any longer.  There won't be a noble cause behind Harry's actions, just Harry surviving a terrible situation.  Something like that would change what Harry feels in big way.
One of the very-real possibilities of Harry's "decision" is that he decided to trade Susan to Bianca, when Bianca made that offer (at the beginning of the climactic fight).  In that case, "Susan" is gone and only another blood-sucking monster exists in a Susan-shaped fleshmask.

Or, Bianca could have spent the intervening years using the Rampire's time-honored "Jaguar Warrior" training-methods to brainwash Susan into fanatic loyalty.

Either of those would be their own whole serving of trauma for Harry!

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DF Spoilers / Re: Twelve Months, chapter one
« on: November 16, 2025, 04:40:21 PM »
... That might be their plan, but I doubt that it will be that simple or that Mab will be fooled by it ...
Of course it won't be easy, and of course it won't fool Mab!
But IMO Mab doesn't want the marriage to go through:  she wants things that she expects to happen during the engagement.

So long as they show no overt disrespect to the Queen of Air and Darkness, Mab will be 100% satisfied with them not getting married.

I'm sure she has contingencies for if the marriage does take place, too.

... It may be another of her not all that transparent plans to take either or both Harry and Lara down at least a peg.  You can bet that Mab has a plan, and it isn't what she claims, a stronger alliance between the Winter Court and the White Court.
I'm pretty sure that Mab is pretty sure that there is some locus of Nemfection in the White Court, and that she intends to hit it with a "patented Harry Dresden anarchygasm" boosted by Winterknight steroids.

Incidentally, she forces Harry (yet again) to operate with an uncomfortable ally, to do diplomatic & social things, etc -- weaknesses of Harry's, that Mab is working to strengthen.

Also, Papa Raith has a substantial library around the Starborn cycle & current iteration of the apocalyptic Outsider invasion, and I'm sure Mab has more than an inkling of that... and that getting access to it for her Starborn Winterknight will substantially bolster his Outsider-fighting ability.

If they do get married, I expect the consummation to turn violent (and Harry will kill Lara):  WoJ has stated that Whampire-Mojo and the Winterknight-mantle interact in explosive and uncontrollable ways.

Mab will put success on any of these fronts into her "Win" column, and I 110% expect that she has other agendas I haven't spotted.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Who will hurt more emotionally for Harry?
« on: November 15, 2025, 06:31:08 PM »
See, here's the thing. What if the mirror mirror version of Susan was a simple homemaker with kids. She than offers Harry a chance to just give up and have a storybook life. No monsters. No courts. A family life that he could raise his daughter. He'd be free of the winter knight contract. Think how painful it would be to turn that down. Remember in Summer Knight I think when the summer lady gave him a brief moment free from his pain. Think how much more pain he's in now. That's why I think the Susan one will be harder. Because he KNOWS Murphy will hurt to see. 

Susan was half-turned, though, and that will likely still be true in the Mirror'verse (unless she got all the way turned there).  The "simple homemaker" future isn't possible for her.

Nor can Harry escape HIS contract:  he's still got a WK-mantle inside him, and both Mab & Maeve thus have hooks deep into him (I can only imagine Lloyd Slate will be bewildered and even-more violently psychopathic if confronted with another WK).

Moreover, Harry (being Harry) isn't capable of just laying down all his worries and chilling.  Not when the monsters are out there preying on mortals.  And WoJ states that the Mirrorverse is in worse shape than Dresdenverse-Prime.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Twelve Months, chapter one
« on: November 15, 2025, 06:20:19 PM »
I expect the Winter-knight X Whamp-princess engagement to bring Harry & Lara closer together...

Not because either of them want it, but because they need a closer alliance to figure out how to wiggle out from under Mab's edict.

How that all plays with PTSD-Harry, I'm unclear.

... The White Court feeds on emotion, is also burned by it, Harry's searing grief may make their relationship impossible ...
Each Whamp has particular hunger/weakness pairing, and they don't really interact with other emotions.
Raith hungers for Lust, but is burned by Love.

So far as we know, Skavis(despair/hope) & Malvora(fear/courage) get nothing from Lust, nor do they suffer from Love.

None, so far as I know, interact directly with grief... though maybe in the Dresden'verse grief has "despair-adjacent" qualities?

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