I'm not sure why you think the book coming out is going to make any kind of difference to the Murphy haters.

Were you going for an Eeyore tone there? Because in my head, it sounded Eeyore-ish.

But I was talking about the forum in general. There's always an explosion of threads when a new book comes out, which is what I was thinking of.

  But how the hell would Amanda get roped up with the Fae enough to become one of them?  We know Molly became one because she was so wrapped up with Lea that she somehow qualified to inherit the position.  Is there really a way for that to happen with a position on a lesser scale?  Christ, so many better questions than the crap I actually asked.

A. your assuming she's gonna do anything willfully
B. how do you know she doesn't.... Molly proved the fae heritage in her bloodline, Molly, as WL, has been spending time around her family like it's just her family, with her sisters, acting like everything is the same. But the dynamic of what she is is entirely different. And exposure to the fae has consequences. What I describe is perfectly correct, regardless of intention. If Molly suddenly learned to feed on latent adoration or other belief powers latent in the world, can you say her sister would not be a primary boost right at this very moment?

In a WoJ, Jim described Molly as being pure mortal prior to becoming the Winter Lady. At least, that's how it sounded. So Molly may not have had any fae in her ancestry at all.

If so, then it seems that it's not even necessary for someone to be part-fae in order to take up one of the Faery mantles. They just have to be... they have to have whatever the hell happened to Molly happen to them. Whatever that was, exactly.

The problem is that we really have no idea* what happened with Molly to make her vulnerable for mantle-hood. Did she make bargains with Mab or Lea? We never saw that. Was it just that she was tied into Harry's bargain with Mab? She was his apprentice, and therefore a part of his "demesne" or whatever, according to Faery law? And so when he became Mab's subject, Molly became Mab's subject as well, by default? It seems like human free will ought to have come into play somewhere in there before Molly's choices were all suddenly taken away from her.

Or maybe it was something else. Simple proximity to one of the fae over an extended period of time? The same proximity while debt was being paid or accrued, in the fae sense of the term?

If proximity is all that is required, then the other Carpenters are at risk. If debt is required, then they might be in the clear(though it would be so easy for a casual statement between siblings to end up starting a fairy balance sheet). If one must be considered a subject of one of the Faery Courts-- in however tenuous a fashion-- then the other kids are probably safe in making casual comments.


* (Okay, I realize I said we had no idea, and then I went on to state some of those ideas that I said we didn't have. I'm not changing it. Sometimes emphasis is more important than literal accuracy.)

It wasn't until the last episode of the series (original airdate in 2007) that I became aware of the books. I'm sure there were captions "Based on the book series by Jim Butcher" in there somewhere, but somehow it didn't register. I remember saying out loud, "Wait. There are books?!" I remember thinking, "I really like this show. I hope they get another season."

A few days later, I picked up Books 1-8 and pre-ordered "White Night" to get me started on some power-reading. After a few books, I remember thinking, "Wow. That's tv show was crap. There's no way they get another season." 

*lol* Thinking back, you know, I think I did exactly the same thing, with much the same reactions.

And then after my third read-through of all the books that were out, I found this forum and started posting here. At the time, Jim was writing one Codex Alera book and one Dresden book a year, so it was easy to maintain enthusiasm for one series or the other in between books. I became a regular poster here as well, and the discussions of theories were another way of enjoying the series. So I guess I've really enjoyed the Dresden Files in three different forms: the TV show, the books themselves, and then the discussion of the books here on this forum.

In the recent Reddit AMA for Brief Cases-- and at one of the signings, too, I think-- Jim said that it's hard for him to write without his own home environment where he can go and shut everyone else out while he works. He said that he'd been building a house that was supposed to take nine months and ended up taking three years, but that it was finished now and he finally had his own writing space again(he apparently moved states to be near his fiance).

Jim said that after the signing tour is over, he thinks he'll be able finish Peace Talks before his wedding this September.

AA!

Heh, I only recently got them to generate a sticky addressing this in the spoilers section.  Maybe more can be done.

Hey, Serack.   Oddly enough, the Spoilers Section was the one place I didn't look for information about the release date, on the basis that the release date for the next book wasn't, well, a spoiler. I figured news about it was more likely to be practically anywhere else Dresden-related, so I didn't check there. I have failed, and I am chagrined.

Are we mentioning new WoJ here, rather than in the "WoJ" section of the forum? I'm just checking to make sure, because it seems a little bit counter-intuitive.

Anyway, here's a link to the full Q&A from Kansas City on January 24, 2013. Please note, I did not record this or upload it to YouTube. That was done by someone with the YouTube account name of lego8ker, and many thanks to them. You, sir or madam, rock.

ok so the fates have shears for cutting the string of fate/life but wtf is the cleaver and why did MS seem upset MW didn't use one of the regular knives? is there a cleaver in any mythos?

Some people have mentioned in one of these Mother Winter threads that Baba Yaga fits the bill for Mother Winter in many ways, that she used iron dentures, and that she tended to cut up unwanted visitors with a cleaver and eat them in a stew.

Baba Yaga also traveled using a mortar and pestle, and someone suggested that Mother Winter's walking stick was the pestle, and that was why it became painful for MW to travel. In light of that, when Mother Summer takes Harry to the Outer Gates, they step onto a stone in the forest that's about three feet wide. This stone could possibly be the mortar. Or, it could be something entirely different, since Mother Summer was the one traveling with Harry and not Mother Winter. Or, maybe both Mother Summer and Mother Winter, together, make up the stories of Baba Yaga.

I've suggested before that by "our name," Mother Summer meant that she and Mother Winter are known collectively by a single name, as two sides of the same being, and that maybe the name MS was talking about was "Gaea." In the same vein, Mother Winter could also be Nyx(the ancient Greek personification of night) and Mother Summer could be Hemera(the personification of day). Hemera is said to be, variously, the daughter of Nyx and Erebus(darkness); or the daughter of Nyx and Chronos(time); or Nyx's sister, with Chaos as mother and father of both sisters.

Interestingly, WoJ suggests that titans are imprisoned under Demonreach. In Greek myth, the titans were imprisoned in Tartarus. Tartarus was also the home of Nyx and Hemera(as well as some other primordial gods), with one of them always leaving as the other came in. Which could mean that, one some weird metaphysical level which probably doesn't come up very often, Mother Winter and Mother Summer may live on Demonreach as well. Or across from Demonreach, on the Nevernever side.