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Author Craft / Re: A burning question left unanswered for years...
« on: January 31, 2014, 08:06:28 PM »
hmmm. I suppose you guys be right. I think I can rely on more detailed description (though not too extensive) to keep the correct image in the reader's mind when I first mention the unique garment.
Though it would be funny to have some call it a skirt in a derogatory sense.
or even have a small child innocently ask him "why do you wear a dress?"

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Author Craft / A burning question left unanswered for years...
« on: January 30, 2014, 12:28:48 AM »
And so I come to these forums; though in hindsight, I probably should have come here much earlier.
and yes, it has ben a very long time since I've been here; college had become very busy very suddenly.

anyway, my question is this; What are those semi-goth skirts guys wear called?!? And before you say kilts, im talking about the kind that go down the the feet.

not unlike this: http://www.hottopic.com/hottopic/Tripp+Black+Strap+Mens+Skirt-974898.jsp

or this:  http://store.vampirefreaks.com/product.php?pid=1855

 In the main story I'm currently writing, the protagonist wears something similar; but I simply cannot go throughout the book reffering to it as the man-skirt (at least not in a humorous way) because it would bring images of kilts with the readers.

your time and answers are highly appreciated...especially with this matter :D

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Author Craft / Re: finding inspiration through music
« on: June 30, 2013, 09:18:33 PM »
sweet. ill check thsoe guys out, Im in need of some new artists ^_^

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Author Craft / Re: reading and symbolism
« on: June 29, 2013, 09:34:33 PM »
I see planting and harvest as symbolic of life and death so to me seeing the scythe as symbolic of death and seeing it as representing the harvest are very similar if not identical. Having said that, I agree that these are the things I think of when I see one. As a distant third they can also be used as a weapon.

A centipede...hmmm... no strong symbolism for me although it could either symbolize poisonousness or a line of people keeping step with each other, soldiers or members of a marching band perhaps.

I see the spinal cord as the communications link between the brain (boss, king, general, etc.) and the rest of the body (company, kingdom, army, etc.) A spinal cord or backbone can also represent strength of will or character, a willingness to stand up for what one believes, courage.

I see moths as symbolizing silent decay. They destroy lay eggs that destroy things yet they themselves are soft, sometimes beautiful and very, very quiet. Their tendency to commit suicide by burning themselves to death against light bulbs can also lead to them symbolizing those that pursue frivolous things (bright lights and shiny things) until it leads to a bad end.

Just my $.02

Silent destoryers, I really liek where you went with the moths   ^_^

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Author Craft / Re: reading and symbolism
« on: June 28, 2013, 06:52:38 PM »
I don't consciously do symbolism in my stories.  I always got super pissed off in school English when *I* wanted to learn how to write a novel, and they kept assigning things where I had to pick apart stories for something I wasn't sure was even there.

That said, as I got older I do understand much more about symbolism than I did then.  Here's what comes to mind on the ones you listed:

1. the Scythe - My first thought is death, grim reaper.  My secondary thought is the scythe's traditional purpose...harvest.  But it's a distant second, since as a reader I'm much more familiar with it as a symbol of death, and not harvest and life, since we don't tend to use scythes in modern farming these days.  Scythes also have a dramatic shape.
2. A centipede - Ew!  Squish it!  I wouldn't really assign much meaning by default to a centipede.  Doesn't mean it's there, just that I wouldn't pick up on it.
3. a spinal cord, - Major component of the nervous system of vertebrates, second only to the brain.  The spinal cord or "backbone" of something symbolizes the essential part or center of an organism or organization.
4. Moths - Creatures of the night.  Creatures that take up residence in empty places.  In the case of Luna Moths, have a relationship with the moon.  The default idea is that moths are ugly, but frankly I personally think some types are as beautiful or more beautiful than butterflies.  Moths can also stand for transformation, as a butterfly can, but probably a less appealing one.

many thanks for the feedback, I do think you are right about centipede's not being very ...well they just aren't used as much, so I may need need to gently point out their meaning without insulting the reader's intelligence.

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Author Craft / Re: reading and symbolism
« on: June 27, 2013, 08:06:35 PM »
I'm not sure if there are any physical symbols in my series, really. But in Locked Within, there were definite symbolic images, all accidental, of rebirth, which is a major theme of the series. Things like emerging from dark water, walking out of a torchlit tunnel after going through a series of life-changing events.
Those work well too; mine kinda happened by accident ^_^

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Author Craft / reading and symbolism
« on: June 25, 2013, 09:00:57 PM »
So, I've been working on a few projects for some thyme now and notice that certain objects have become somewhat symbolic to the series. It kind of happpened by accident, but I wanted to see what meanings behind these symbols are for each of you writers and readers alike.

1. the Scythe
2. A centipede
3. a spinal cord,
4. Moths

I'd also like to ask what kinds of symbols you use, and what meanings you want to convey through them.

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The Bar / Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
« on: June 25, 2013, 08:52:04 PM »
alas.... probably why I dont watch any TV anymore....


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Author Craft / Re: Describing the Main Character
« on: June 25, 2013, 07:55:58 PM »
The way i wrote it in one of the (many) stories i wrote (and never finished), was give little bits and pieces, then about three chapters in, the character got arrested and the interrogator went through his very long rap sheet and did the whole physical description. Probably not gonna work in most stories, but it fit pretty well in mine.
actually, I find that to be rather clever.

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Author Craft / Re: POV's and whatnot
« on: June 25, 2013, 07:53:32 PM »
Im loving this feedback and discussion, and that red-flag list had me scared until I saw I (thank God) avoided them.

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Author Craft / Re: finding inspiration through music
« on: June 25, 2013, 06:38:26 PM »
just out of curiosity, does anyone here listen to Post-Rock? bands like Mono, GodSpeed You BLack EMperor, or This Will Destroy You?
generally the slow, mellow, emotional rock that builds up into legendary climaxes?  can be really beautiful, or incredibly sorrowful?
If not, and if you are curious, and if you have the thyme, I would reccomend checking out Mono's "ashes in the snow" for a great example.

I mostly mention thise because Post-Rock tends to be the most inspiring for me.

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Author Craft / Re: Describing the Main Character
« on: June 25, 2013, 06:34:32 PM »
I've always given the description in short, but meaningful "dumps" and try not to cause "suprise" characteristics later. by suprise I mean, for a random example, it turns out the protagonist's face has been covered in scars the whole thyme and the reader doesn't learn it until chapter 18.

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Author Craft / Re: Help. Thoughts?
« on: June 25, 2013, 06:28:42 PM »
Man, I always read all of the book, feeling immersed into it and all ( though if it was a book i really didnt like i just skipped parts or left the book altogether) and felt irritated when friends would be like "yeah i finished it!" and learned they skipped to the dialogue or action scenes.

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Author Craft / Re: POV's and whatnot
« on: June 25, 2013, 06:07:28 PM »
I'm with Deposed King. For a short story, you're usually best to keep to a single POV character. There's just not enough space in a short story to give each POV the time and attention it deserves.

As others have said, for 1st-person, it can be hard on a reader if you switch POV characters, even briefly. With 1st-person, the goal is to get the reader really into the head of the character. Its intimacy is part of the appeal and strength of the style.

If you find yourself wanting to write from other POVs, but still keep a strong level of intimacy, I'd suggest experimenting with 3rd-person limited, and starting with either two equal POVs, or one primary POV and maybe two minor ones, kept for scenes where the primary POV isn't present but there's still something you want the reader to see.


true true. When I read through it it does lack that intimacy.

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Author Craft / Re: POV's and whatnot
« on: June 25, 2013, 06:05:58 PM »
I would advise against POV shifting, especially in a short story.  Its hard enough to connect with a character, when you are stuck with such a small canvas the problem compounds.  A novel on the other hand is much better for multiple POV's however I have to warn you that most people prefer to have one 'main' character.  You can get away with multiple points of views or (POV) but you should be very careful.

That said don't listen to me, write it out and then show it to people.  The audience will let you know.  And the first members of your audience are your beta readers.




The Deposed King



True, Im hgetting my beta readers on it now that ive touched it up. Like you said, who knows. Either way, it was kinda fun trying a bit of a different style. Though I don't think I would shift POV's for a full length novel

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