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DF Spoilers / Re: About Titania
« on: July 15, 2021, 03:32:18 PM »
Of course she is. But the question is about what she spends her time doing - and the answer is countering Winter's aggressions to the mortals. She doesn't have to counter everything Winter does, as Griffyn says. Summer only has to counter the stuff that threatens mortals.
I'm only partially disagreeing, but I see Titania doing the same kinds of deals with all the other powers as well.  Mab does these deals to increase her power, which (possibly incidentally) gives her more ability to defend the gates.  Titania will be doing the same sorts of machinations to also increase her power, which (also possibly incidentally) helps her keep the balance against Mab.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Who gets a Banner? (and why?)
« on: June 15, 2021, 07:30:38 PM »
Let me caveat...  it has been a while since I read the book, so I could be fuzzy.

I don't remember us being told specifically that the banner was something that is necessarily related to the Winter Knight or Mab.  I remember Mab saying that no Winter Knight has been able to do this since that one famous guy.   She didn't say that the other guy did it because he was Winter Knight, just that he was the last guy who did it that was Winter Knight.  One could take that to mean that it is some latent Winter Knight thing that only a super small percentage of them can do.  But in the light that Marcone also did this thing, it is easy to also interpret this as Mab just saying that this power to grab this mystical Leadership banner is rare, and the last Winter Knight to pull it off was that Tam guy.

So all I'm saying is that, unless I am forgetting some detail, we don't have a really detailed explanation of exactly what the "Banner" thing entails, or what exactly causes it.  For all we know, a person could do this without any formal position (like Baron of Chicago, or Winter Knight), perhaps all it requires is a large scale confluence of Magical Forces and a person who can call and inspire leadership.  This would mean it is more likely to happen if you have a title and position, but not necessary.

Mind you, I'm not claiming this is the case, just that we don't have enough info to say exactly either way.
This topic was intriguing enough that I re-read the book this weekend.  Paying special attention to these passages.

I believe that though it is not said explicitly, it does seem to hint that being Winter Knight has something to do with the Banner, but it still could be that WK just gives Harry a position that people can focus on.

It does say explicitly that Harry "feels" the hurts of the people under his banner because that is Winter Law.  Once again here, it is not explicit that The Banner is caused by Winter, but that this property is from Winter.  I think I'm being pedantic with this, though.  It is a good indicator that at least Harry's Banner might be a Winter Knight thing.

We do have the extra thought that we don't know how Marcone "felt" his Bannerlings.  He doesn't say anything about it at all, he just seems to recognize what Harry is describing as familiar.  Since Marcone is not Winter, he may not have been affected by Winter Law, and thus may have not "felt" his Bannerlings taking damage like Harry did.

The Banners were theirs to lead but were only possible because of the power Mab was exerting. They made use of a tool Mab made available subconsciously. She set up the conditions but their wills are what shaped their banners from her power
There was definitely nothing in the passaages that explicitly says Mab is causing the Banner.  It also doesn't say she isn't.

If we get evidence (WoJ or other) that says Marcone felt the damage from his Bannerlings as Harry did, then we can claim evidence that Winter (and possibly Mab) made the Banners possible.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Who gets a Banner? (and why?)
« on: June 10, 2021, 06:48:51 PM »
Let me caveat...  it has been a while since I read the book, so I could be fuzzy.

I don't remember us being told specifically that the banner was something that is necessarily related to the Winter Knight or Mab.  I remember Mab saying that no Winter Knight has been able to do this since that one famous guy.   She didn't say that the other guy did it because he was Winter Knight, just that he was the last guy who did it that was Winter Knight.  One could take that to mean that it is some latent Winter Knight thing that only a super small percentage of them can do.  But in the light that Marcone also did this thing, it is easy to also interpret this as Mab just saying that this power to grab this mystical Leadership banner is rare, and the last Winter Knight to pull it off was that Tam guy.

So all I'm saying is that, unless I am forgetting some detail, we don't have a really detailed explanation of exactly what the "Banner" thing entails, or what exactly causes it.  For all we know, a person could do this without any formal position (like Baron of Chicago, or Winter Knight), perhaps all it requires is a large scale confluence of Magical Forces and a person who can call and inspire leadership.  This would mean it is more likely to happen if you have a title and position, but not necessary.

Mind you, I'm not claiming this is the case, just that we don't have enough info to say exactly either way.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Butters’ ancestry?
« on: August 27, 2019, 06:27:41 PM »
I hate to be *that* guy, but here are some interesting videos to watch on this subject:

Numberphile episode showing mathematical proof that Every baby is a royal baby and why:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm0hOex4psA
PBS's "It's ok to be Smart" Explaining how we are all related.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnYSMhR3jCI

As it turns out, if you have any European ancestry, you are a direct descendant of Charlemagne.  You are also a descendent of every other single person alive in Europe (at least if they had any descendants at all) from the lowest beggar to every King that lived in that timeframe.

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Cinder Spires Spoilers / Re: Intra-Habble Transportation
« on: October 18, 2015, 02:04:54 AM »
I would like to hear from Jim if there is any inter-habble transportation besides Airships.  Any stairs or elevator style lifts between floors. 

One could imagine a vertical train where the cars would stack with the floors of the cars being vertically the same distance as between habble floors.  At the top, the car flips around and becomes the car going down in a second elevator shaft (both shafts could be outside the habble proper).  If you need to go up, you get in one side; down in the other.  It could stop for 1 minute at each habble.  Would take maybe 6 hours to get from bottom to top.  Maybe even faster it you stopped like an airport train.  Like 10 seconds at each stop for foot traffic.  You could have a second set of elevators that stop for longer to load cargo for a slow, but steady flow of cargo.

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Absolutely, I think everyone who does Math, Engineering, or Sciences whole heartedly agree that metric is better than Imperial, it's just that some would say metric should be base 12 rather than base 10. 

However, with base 12, imperial measurement jumps are almost always factors of 2, 3, 4, 12 or 60, all of which would look more natural in base 12.  Maybe it would be easier to make a 2-step change to base12 metric.  I know we've tried to switch to metric a couple of time here in the states, and it never took off.   Maybe baby steps?   :)

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Cinder Spires Spoilers / Re: Cinder Spires Airship Specs So Far
« on: October 17, 2015, 06:57:20 PM »
I think Jim may have lifted the ship class naming conventions off of David Weber's Honor Harrington series (a sci-fi take on Horatio Hornblower as opposed to Jim's steam punk take).

In increasing order in size in that universe with a line break

Destroyer
Light Cruiser
Heavy Cruiser
Battlecruiser
----
Battleship
Dreadnought
Superdreadnought
You are not wrong with your description, and I enjoyed the Honor Harrington series, but this naming scheme was not developed by David Weber, it comes from British Royal Navy classification, and is used in not only the Honor Harrington series, but also in almost all military SciFi series.  Here is a link to a site that gives a lot of info on the classifications.
http://criticalshit.org/2015/05/15/on-the-taxonomy-of-spaceships/

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I agree with that, I disagree with the divide into 3 more than into 5.
Let's see, I concede the 24 hours of a day, or the 9 muses. But 60 minutes or second divide by 3 or 5 with no problem. 30 days for a month, again divide 3-5. Many things are seven. We also have 4 directions. Many things come in pairs. There are flowers with 5 based corolles and with 3 based one, so it's a tie here. I agree insects have 6 legs, so divide by 3. But other animals have numbers not based in 3 or 5.
You are right and wrong.  Many scientists and mathematicians have argued to move to a base 12 system because it is evenly divisible by twice as many numbers.  Also in base12, only divinding by 7 will result in an ugly repeating decimal value.  In base10, you get that ugly result with 3, 6, 7, and 9.   That makes the simple mathematics much easier for non-mathematicians.  Your everyday life would be easier.

Here is a Numberphile video that might explain it better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6xJfP7-HCc

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Cinder Spires Spoilers / Re: Minerals.
« on: October 17, 2015, 01:48:09 PM »
It doesn't specifically say what it's made out of. Just that the second layer was filled with "Masonry and wooden construction"

But I wouldn't think a wooden floor 2 miles across would be stable enough to hold buildings. The would would start rotting and stuff and constantly have to be replaced, and the supports would have to be huge. I'm assuming it's made out of some kind of stone
There is no stone material on Earth that could make an unsupported floor 2 miles across either.  Stone/concrete has great compressive strength, but very low shear strength and tensile strength.  It is also very heavy.  You would have to have arches and lots of columns along with steel beams and supports.  Wood is actually much better at tensile strength than stone or masonry.

That said, wood also couldn't support a 2 mile floor without lots of supports, and concrete's great compressive strength would be more suited to having things piled on top of it (like large buildings).

In reality, it's probably best not to think about the details of this, because the engineering details are probably impossible to work out as Jim writes about it.  At least not without inventing some super-material like spirestone, or some other "magical" means.  Maybe they were able to put lift crystals in the floor?

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Cinder Spires Spoilers / Re: Intra-Habble Transportation
« on: October 17, 2015, 05:10:26 AM »
This was an interesting thread, which got me to thinking about the spire structure and amount of living space.  I came up with some inconsistencies in the numbers.  I guess inconsistency is not the right word.  Just different from what I was picturing.
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Lord Albion rose and took a couple of the large maps down from the wall behind him, revealing a to-scale rendering of the entire Spire. “Spire Albion,” he said. “Ten thousand feet high, two miles across. There are two hundred and fifty habbles, of which two hundred and thirty-six are occupied.
Doing the math here 10,000 ft. / 250 Habbles = 40 ft. height per Habble.  Note this also includes the thickness of the floor+ceiling.

But then we have:
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Habble Morning occupied the entirety of the Spire, most of it beneath a vast atrium nearly two hundred feet high, and it was the next-best thing to two miles from one side of the great cylinder that was Spire Albion to the other.
This must mean that the Habbles are not all the same height.  I guess it makes sense that Habble Morning is the biggest, since that is where the seat of government is.

Anyway, back to topic...
A Habble has about 2000 acres (3.14 mi^2).  Knnn's numbers are good about farming.  on Traditional sustainable farms, you can feed each person on 4 acres, but with vats and hydroponics, I believe that it makes sense that you could get a higher density yield.  Especially since they are not necessarily growing the same inefficient crops and animals.  Also, since you are not restricted to solar surface area, you can potentially stack those hydroponics and vats vertically and get a much denser yield per acre from that as well.  After all, in the habble light for the crops would be coming from crystals.

Anyway, fun to think about.

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Changes page 161-162 for whole convo. i am just using the important piece.
Harry,"How does it work?"
Vadderung,"it tears out the heart. rips it to bits on the way out, too. sound familiar?"
Harry," hell's bells." it had been years since i had even thought about Victor Sells or his victims.
Vaderung, "it's all connected, Dresden. the whole game. and you're now beginning to learn who the players are. the sorcerer who used the spell in Chicago before didn't have strength enough to make it spread past the initial target. the RC does.no one has used Power on that scale in more than a millennium."
Yes, I put that in my edit above as well, but it doesn't specifically say that it is the same spell, just that they are similar, and that Sells' version didn't have enough power to go bloodline.  One could infer that it was the same spell, but it doesn't seem definitive.  You can feel from the whole conversation that Vadderung *can't* fill Harry in on all the details.  It seems to me that Vadderung is using this to point something out to Harry so he can find a method to defeat it, but he can't go into more specifics.

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With somebody that hated the same guy I did?  In a heartbeat.  That way I don't have to worry about the 'police' coming after me.  The white court isn't the only group that likes to work behind the scenes, and manipulate everybody into doing their dirty work for them.
IN the time of SF, did the RC or the WC either know who Harry was, or have any reason to have him as an enemy?

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so how did he come up with the formula for 3eye? that is a far advanced potion. how did he get the bloodline curse? how did he get an extensive library as they would be expensive? and he was never said to have one just a few books. no he isn't self taught someone taught him specific things and set him on his path. someone had wanted Sells to do specific things, he was a tool. it is obvious.
Where do we have evidence that 3eye is a "far advanced" potion?  He did not have the "Bloodline Curse", though the curse he used did have a similar effect, it did not target a bloodline.  He had a demon summoned, it is possible that the bound demon was compelled to tell him something about curses, or even potion making.  Or it could have been another demon that he summoned.  All of this is speculation, of course.

Edit:
I looked it up, and from Changes Chapter 21...
(click to show/hide)
  That could mean that Sells Spell is the exact same spell as the Bloodline Curse and Sells just needed more power to go bloodline, but it doesn't mean that that the spell would not need to be changed as well as need more power to go bloodline.  It's hard to tell exactly what's going on, since we know Harry (and therefore us) have only a small portion of the picture.

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DFRPG / Re: Am I the only one with questions?
« on: January 13, 2009, 08:17:41 PM »
I agree with The Mouse here.  I would advise taking a look at the older FATE rule sets and SotC, as they are free and online.  It will give you good indication of what DFRPG will be like.  In many ways, FATE is a lot simpler and more elegant than D&D and most other RPGs.  In reality, I prefer a lot more numbers in an RPG, but even though I prefer the crunchy systems, FATE, especially SotC has a lot of really cool features that are great for actual plot and story.  I love SotC's addition of Swapping chars during creation phases to work the party's characters together in their backgrounds.

Anyway, I ramble.  You should check out:
http://www.faterpg.com/

It will get you informed about the system's style.

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DFRPG / Re: The difference between diceless and LARP
« on: January 13, 2009, 08:06:05 PM »
Nice.  dig up a year old thread to tell me I'm an idiot.   I'm sure you could have found something much more recent for that.  :)

That's not quite true.

Taken most literally, diceless just means that it doesn't involve dice. Diceless games may or may not involve other randomizers, and they generally involve some sort of numbers. Everway, for example, involves no dice, but it does use a tarot-like deck, and characters have numeric traits.

Sometimes people say diceless when they mean randomless. Randomless games involve no chance, but they often involve numbers and resource management. Nobilis has four numerical traits and each has a pool of miracle points. You don't succeed or fail based on chance, but on how willing you are to spend your resources, and how clever you are in bringing any conflict into an area in which you dominate.

What you've described above I would call freeform. The closest I can get from my game experience is Puppetland. Characters are defined by what they are (tall, strong, etc), what they can do (run very fast, climb moderately well, etc), and what they cannot do (fit through small spaces, shout loudly, etc). Players state their intention, and the GM tells them what happens.

A note on freeform RPGs: They often involve sharing narrative authority around the table to a degree not seen in "traditional" RPGs. I cannot recall the name of the game, but in one if your character is, for example, a knowledgeable biologist, you get the narrative authority to resolve any situation related to biological science information.

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