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DF Books / Re: Shirt Quotes: Buy Dresden Stuff!
« on: December 09, 2012, 10:44:06 PM »I think my brains just broked on there one.
Mine, too. I'm soooo glad I had already swallowed my coffee.
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Mine, too. I'm soooo glad I had already swallowed my coffee.
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DF Reference Collection / Re: [CD spoilers] Mother Winter, the Blackstaff, Death and the Raven Banner
« on: December 07, 2012, 02:57:13 PM »What if keeping the Blackstaff also enables him to similarly resist the influences of being the Winter Knight (and perhaps Lash?).
Actually, that would (for me) cheapen the books a bit. Harry is a hero because he resisted the temptations all by himself. If the Blackstaff did all the work for him, then the books are about Harry's magical toys, rather than about Harry.
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It would enable him to wield all the various powers he's picked up without falling prey to the Dark Side.
The Blackstaff gives one the ability to resist cookies?
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DF Reference Collection / Re: [CD spoilers] Mother Winter, the Blackstaff, Death and the Raven Banner
« on: December 07, 2012, 02:25:27 PM »So you are essentially saying that MW's false teeth are her various mantles as the 4 riders of the apocalypse?
It's an elegant theory ... in a very viscerally disturbing kind of way.
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DF Reference Collection / Re: [CD spoilers] Mother Winter, the Blackstaff, Death and the Raven Banner
« on: December 07, 2012, 04:37:38 AM »So it is highly likely Mother Winter's lost walking stick is now known as the Blackstaff. So what would Harry do if Eb were to die (In battle or murdered) and Harry picked up the staff. Would he accept the post of the new Blackstaff; assuming it was offered to him, or would he return Mother Winter's walking stick to her?
With the first option Harry gets to break all the laws of magic and do everything he despises without going insane. The second option puts the staff back in the hands of a being that thinks that Mab is too soft.
Good question. Indeed, that would be a sufficient hook to hang a secondary plot for one of the books.
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DF Reference Collection / Re: [CD spoilers] Mother Winter, the Blackstaff, Death and the Raven Banner
« on: December 07, 2012, 04:17:37 AM »Each of the immortals seem to add a mantle that has current relevance in order to maintain power in opposition to the Oblivian War. Ivy is the enemy of all of them, odd that she is a signatory to the accords...
Hmmm ... is the complete oblivion of all non-mortals part of the goal of the Oblivion War? I thought they were only after the nasty things that preyed on humanity.
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DF Reference Collection / Re: [CD spoilers] Mother Winter, the Blackstaff, Death and the Raven Banner
« on: December 07, 2012, 03:04:42 AM »I just want to ask his, but is Kringle a mantle, like the Knight of Winter/Summer, or is it just a mask for Odin when he feels like it?
That is an extremely good question.
My guess (and it is just a guess) is that Kringle is a mask, not a mantle. If someone were to manage to kill Odin, then the mask of Kringle might become a Mantle, but as of right now, it's simply a mask.
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DF Reference Collection / Re: [CD spoilers] Mother Winter, the Blackstaff, Death and the Raven Banner
« on: December 07, 2012, 02:37:45 AM »He never actually gets hit with the gun, Harry uses it to block he sword and when he is on top of him holds it like a club, but he doesn't hit him with it. [Cold Days, 404]
Ahah! So the question of whether or not Kringle suffers from contact with Bane is still unanswered.
Thanks for the quote and clarification.
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DF Reference Collection / Re: [CD spoilers] Mother Winter, the Blackstaff, Death and the Raven Banner
« on: December 07, 2012, 02:24:21 AM »Was the part of the Winchester that he got smacked with made of mostly iron? I know nothing about guns...
I don't have my copy handy, so I don't remember if Kringle got smacked with the stock or the barrel. (The stock would be wood, the barrel steel--and the stock may or may not have a steel butt-plate on it as well, depending upon the model.)
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DF Reference Collection / Re: [CD spoilers] Mother Winter, the Blackstaff, Death and the Raven Banner
« on: December 07, 2012, 02:06:03 AM »Odin probably gains the Fae's weakness to iron only when he dons the mantle of Kringle. I think he also actually becomes a Fae at that time.
If he had, wouldn't getting smacked with the Winchester have burned/poisoned him?
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DF Reference Collection / Re: [CD spoilers] Mother Winter, the Blackstaff, Death and the Raven Banner
« on: December 07, 2012, 01:44:13 AM »but is he an actual member of the fae court the way Mab and Mother Winter are?
No, but I can see the logic. If MW was Death, becoming a Fae would actually be a step down in power for her.
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DF Reference Collection / Re: [CD spoilers] Mother Winter, the Blackstaff, Death and the Raven Banner
« on: December 07, 2012, 12:12:55 AM »What kind of Fairy can handle rusty shears and has iron false teeth?
If you're as bad-a** as Mother Winter, you have any kind of false teeth you want.
You do present a good argument for MW not being Fae in some sense, or for the office of Winter's Eldest being like the office of Knight (in that Harry can handle iron, he only has problems if it penetrates his skin). But if MW is Death Herself, then by every definition I can think of she's not a "standard" Fae--indeed, if I were writing the books, Death would predate the Fae entirely.
The only fly in the ointment I see is thus: is this what Jim has in mind?
Time may tell....
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DF Reference Collection / Re: The identity of the Mothers [CD spoilers]
« on: December 01, 2012, 03:03:55 AM »And Kris Kringle another...although he turns out to be even more that that....he seems to just play at being Fae.
It's one of those winter vacation package deals.
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DF Reference Collection / Re: The identity of the Mothers [CD spoilers]
« on: November 28, 2012, 09:02:43 AM »
I also have to agree with the Gaia hypothesis. Having the Summer Lady as Clothos would unbalance Summer and Winter.
Gaia has two sides--light and dark, life and death. Or, as Ian Anderson sings (slightly adjusted as necessary for this case), "(S)he who made kittens put snakes in the grass."
Gaia has two sides--light and dark, life and death. Or, as Ian Anderson sings (slightly adjusted as necessary for this case), "(S)he who made kittens put snakes in the grass."
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DFRPG / Re: Playing a true, Pure Fae
« on: November 25, 2012, 03:45:56 AM »If you have a page reference, I can compare the text with the current version. I have not seen anything explicitly disallowing it so far.
I don't, unfortunately, but the distinction that was made was (iirc) whether a character could act out of will, or only out of their nature. Humans act as they choose--Fae, angels, Red Court vampires, and other creatures only act as they must act, according to their nature. I think it was in the Character Creation section that talked about Changelings.
I think it has to do with having no "refresh"--Fae's power costs are too high to have free will.
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