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The water is also extra troublesome because of how it disperses magic. Odin and others use magic quite a lot.

Then I guess almost everyone intelligent suspected treachery of some sort, but the kill Chicago was just out of the realm of likelihood.

Perhaps he did not about the bronze armor thing. I guess without it they could just have killed her if she did something so direct.

I seem to remember early on, that water causes all kinds of trouble for magic.. I seem to remember that rain helped save Harry and Susan's ass from the frog demon in Storm Front.  So could Mab have spies in the depths to keep track of the Fomor? Perhaps, then again even she might have limits on the extent of her power.. Consider the Polar Ice Cap, yes, the surface is frozen, but the ice only goes so far.. You can take a submarine under it..

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DF Spoilers / Re: Twelve Months (blurb'ed & priced on Amazon)
« on: March 30, 2025, 08:13:54 PM »
I love e-books for several reasons. One of them is that I can adapt the font size. Sometimes my sight, even when glasses, is tired and I like to read larger letters.

They both have their place and their advantages.. 

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DF Spoilers / Re: The Erl King a Vassal of Winter?
« on: March 30, 2025, 08:11:36 PM »
Yes, Erlking "hangs" with Winter more than Summer.

But he's more "Summery" in himself...
I think the problem is with us in the fandom:  we want to try to assign categories for these beings, and they just don't fit neatly into the boxes we have... nor neatly and entirely out of our boxes...

Yup, an independent operator..

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DF Spoilers / Re: Twelve Months (blurb'ed & priced on Amazon)
« on: March 29, 2025, 02:49:58 PM »
I think I'll be waiting an extra 2 or 3 months for it to come down in price after publishing at that rate.
Or going to the library. I'm not a Kindle fan and audio books grate on my nerves.
Good to see movement though

 I also prefer a real book in my hands when I read... However Kindle does have it's uses, so I have an old one for those times.. Like out of print or older books that either aren't available in any other format or the only way they can be gotten at a reasonable price.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Twelve Months (blurb'ed & priced on Amazon)
« on: March 28, 2025, 07:31:26 PM »
It's possible (I hope) that the comments about his last two books suffering from the "Author's too big to edit" problem convinced the publisher to take a hard look at the manuscript and tell him that multiple changes/cuts are needed. It's also possible that his publisher just has so much in the pipeline that next January is the first open slot they had.

You could be right, because the two books did suffer because they should have been one book to begin with...

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DF Spoilers / Re: The Erl King a Vassal of Winter?
« on: March 28, 2025, 07:28:27 PM »


Found this WOJ quote on Reddit

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"There is no such thing as the Summer King in the Dresden Files faerie cosmology. Mab and Titania need a king like a fish need a bicycle. There are a ton of independent rulers of the Wyld, though much like the Erlking who is a member of the Winter Court more or less as a sign of courtesy and respect. They will occasionally make alliances (and dalliances) witht he great rulers of the Sidhe"
- Jim Butcher, 2014 AMA

Looks like according to this WOJ the Erlking is a member of the Winter Court, I guess like Vadderrung is a member of the Winter Court in his Kris Kringle carnation... He is also referred to as the "Master of the Hunt"  or Herne and was called by that name in one of the books.   

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DF Spoilers / Re: Twelve Months (blurb'ed & priced on Amazon)
« on: March 27, 2025, 07:32:58 PM »
Yeah, I noticed.  Publisher schedules... kinda suck.


As @Just Al noted, I accidentally posted Amazon.ca link, so that's $$$CDN.  Even so... printing costs are going up, lately (and the stupid tariffs may make that worse).

I'm going to get it from the library, I think.

Or maybe sign-up to Audible -- looks like there's an offer to get the audiobook "free" with a new account (the wife & I have been sharing her account, so I can get one and it'll be new).

I'll likely pick up a hardcopy later, from the second-hand / discount market.

For example:  Powell's Books is now selling copies of Peace Talks for $13.95 (MSRP is $28).

God help us all on the tariffs, and if the new powers that be have their way on Social Security, being able to afford the next Dresden novel won't be the only thing I have to worry about. :(

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DF Spoilers / Re: Twelve Months (blurb'ed & priced on Amazon)
« on: March 27, 2025, 11:32:06 AM »


  $40.00???? :o >:(  Well, $39.99  ::) #@$$%%!!!!  Kindle is $16.99 or $17.00 in my book.... ::) Hopefully it is worth it...
  Don't know if I will be able to afford it..

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DF Spoilers / Re: Grey Council… will we meet it in TM? Who is on it?
« on: March 26, 2025, 11:53:09 AM »
But that's for a name -- the True Name -- of a being.
Not (that I have ever seen) other words and their "correct"  pronunciation (q.v. Harry and his Latin).
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We all understand that Harry's Latin sucks though it has improved because he finally applied himself to study it while Molly was his apprentice.  However the words and how they are said for spells matter..  Harry knows how he says the word, "Fuego" when he is about to fry or toast something, and I bet he knows when he hears some other wizard use it in a way that he thought was unique to him.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Grey Council… will we meet it in TM? Who is on it?
« on: March 25, 2025, 06:35:20 PM »
It was also said a couple times its not just the name but in the way you say it. Which is why the phrasing in Changes stands out, because Harry notices it.

So a few possibilities, 1] Time traveling Harry.. Possible, but likely?  Doubtful because what would be a reason for it? To save Susan? Possibly, but it failed.  To save the Red Court somehow?  Maybe if keeping the Fomor at bey was critical to later events.. 2] Justin didn't die and knew that Harry used that word and is screwing with him... Maybe, but unlikely.. 3] Elaine would know he used that word, is very alive and is talented enough to be part of the Grey Council.. So her way of telling Harry that she is still in the fight..

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DF Spoilers / Re: The Erl King a Vassal of Winter?
« on: March 25, 2025, 12:44:52 PM »
The Erlking is of Summer.

He's only a 'peer' of Mab/Titania in a legalistic sense, that is, he's a sort of 'King of Summer'.  His raw power is far less than either Queen.  I don't know how he would stack up against the Winter/Summer Lady.

So far he seems to play a minor role..  I remember him vaguely, if he is a sort of "King of Summer," then you'd think he'd have had more of a role than the Lady or even the Knight in Harry's adventures, but he doesn't, not on page anyway... That isn't to say he won't in the future. In my opinion he is more of an independent and has his own agenda.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Grey Council… will we meet it in TM? Who is on it?
« on: March 24, 2025, 03:22:17 PM »
I've heard other people say this and I do not buy into it. There was a thread with the times it was mentioned in text and even Harry notices it. Jim is very specific in the way he does things, this sticks out. I believe there was more to it than just Fuego is the Spanish word for fire.

Maybe I'm wrong though :)

I agree, because I remember, though I cannot remember if it was Harry saying it in one of the books, or WOJ, that Harry says he made up the word as a kid after he got decent at the fire spell, that it wasn't really Latin or Spanish, more of a combo with Harry's own slant.  Reason being Harry wanted the word for that spell to be unique to him so it couldn't be used against him.

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DF Spoilers / Re: The Erl King a Vassal of Winter?
« on: March 24, 2025, 03:18:46 PM »
When did that happen.  In Dead Beat he was “Wild Fae”.  Did something change or did Mr. Butcher change his mind?

 No, I think I could be wrong, but Fae like Toot began as a "Wild Fae" as well but pledged his allegiance to Winter after Harry became Winter Knight.  It could be that the Erl King started out the same way and as he grew also made a choice and became a vassal of Winter, but that's a guess.

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Of course they say so, but it seems in Ghost Story/Changes Mab has some power over the cold and dark of the deeps.

I don't think she had power over the cold or dark of the deep.  What Mab did anticipate was Harry's attempted suicide, she or Uriel may have had some control over the slight breeze that may have altered the bullet a few millimeters so when it hit Harry's heart it didn't cause instant death.  And somehow arranged or got lucky because Harry fell into the already near freezing water of the lake, and was waiting for him in anticipation.  The cold of the water slowed things down and kept Harry's brain from dying from lack of oxygen and blood circulation.. Yup she can make ice, so could Harry as he has demonstrated..  That isn't the same as having direct knowledge of what Fomor do in the depths which is their kingdom.

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