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Author Craft / Re: Author In Progress
« on: April 23, 2012, 01:50:03 AM »
I've been writing since I was a kid. 

Just a brief run-through, which now seems far more humorous and a bit surreal.  Bad college experience #1 with a committee.  I lost the fiction person on my committee when they went "slightly" mental and threatened to bring a gun to one of their classes.  That left me frantically looking for a new committee member months before graduating and getting fiction feedback from people who only wrote poetry and nonfiction.  I was young.  I quit writing fiction :P  Bad college experience #2 with another committee.  A pure nightmare that left me stuck spinning for about six years until I found a replacement completely outside my area--I'm a lit geek and a postmodernist; I ended up with someone in Restoration British lit on my committee (I call this period "fun with tenure requirements, and what happens when their aren't enough tenured professors in your area at the college you attend).  I quit writing academic stuff. 

I switched to writing nonfiction and returned to reading for fun and came out reinvigorated.  I've mainly published some poetry, some nonfiction, and some academic stuff here and there.  My husband finally convinced me to return to fiction, which was always my first love, this past spring.  I think the timing was finally right, and since February, I've been working on my first book.  I work full time, but try to complete somewhere between 2-4 chapters a week.  I'm hoping to have a draft finished by mid-May.  I also hope it doesn't completely suck, but right now, I'm just in it for the pure enjoyment I've found in writing fiction again :D

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Author Craft / Re: Are Readers Growing Tired of New Urban Fantasy?
« on: April 22, 2012, 02:31:27 AM »
I don't see urban fantasy going away.  Like any other genre, it has a large audience base.  Like any other genre, a work's success is going to be based on the story and characters--does the book draw the audience in?  But because the market is so flooded, word of mouth is probably incredibly important as well.  But that's the case with any book anyone writes. 

I think what might be more detrimental and beneficial (yes, contradiction there) is the e-reader market.  The problem is that now the market is even more flooded with books, short stories, etc. and a lot of them make you wonder who told the person they could write (okay, that was very snobby, but most of you have probably read those e-books that have literally no editing whatsoever, no character development, bland story, etc.).  These factors are the downside--a flooded book market overall, with much crap to wade through.

The plus side?  It's probably easier than ever to get published since there isn't a lot of revenue involved in publishing an e-book.  I also noticed that many authors offer their first books at a much discounted price in order to build up an audience--then the books get progressively more expensive as they build that audience base.  It's also very much looking like if you want a physical, print copy of the book published, you're going to need to achieve a certain amount of success digitally (sorta the same way paperback to hardback always worked).

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I think several people mentioned just how long it actually takes to write something and how long you mull it over in your head before you even begin.  For me, it's the how many games of cards did I play while mulling over. . . :P  damn distractions. :D

But, I broke page 200 yesterday.  Today I cooked, though, cuz I'm very tired of Totinos and Spaghetti-Os!

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Author Craft / Re: Are Readers Growing Tired of New Urban Fantasy?
« on: April 16, 2012, 12:57:07 AM »
I can tell you I'm utterly tired of reading variations on this on the book jacket.

"X is a PI/FBI/other law enforcement agent, blah blah blah problem, sexy male/vampire/werewolf person hates/doesn't want to be attracted to but must to solve the problem"

It's gotten to the point that I don't even try to read a UF book that mentions to 'love interest' on the book Jacket because it is just Paranormal Romance trying to make me think it is Urban Fantasy.

Yeah, you know it's bad when even the book synopsis displays a complete lack of originality :P

The other thing that annoys me is when a book cover completely contradicts a character.  Why would you put someone in skimpy clothes on the cover when the main character is more at home with jeans and a t-shirt?

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Author Craft / Re: On the Utter Drek we write and Show verus Tell
« on: April 16, 2012, 12:53:02 AM »
Okay, so I've decided my mind is the problem :D  Just need a shut off switch somewhere.  I listen to audiobooks on my way to and from work and keep finding myself drifting into my own little world!

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Author Craft / Re: Christian influences in Fantasy writing
« on: April 16, 2012, 12:46:26 AM »
Ultimately, I think it's what you, personally want to convey--the things that are in your heart.  The only serious contemplation you need to do is a) how do you want to portray Christianity and b) how might it impact audience perceptions.  If you don't care at all about b, then you can include as much about Christianity as you want.  If you do care more about b, then you might want to go more along a moralistic/values line in order to retain a wider audience.  There is a lot of fiction that explores religion (I'm thinking now of like Philip Roth, Gabriel García Márquez, Salman Rushdie) but how heavy/how critical/how analytical, etc. always depends on the author.

One big thing to think about, alongside religious issues, is the fact that many political & social issues go hand in hand, which can further gain and/or alienate different audiences. 

And then there's the whole spirituality vs. religion, which for me, personally, are two separate things, yet often quite intertwined.  However, focusing more on a spiritual level might also broaden the audience.

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i hope so thanks The Deposed King
i got 200 word done to day wow thats bad  :( oh well there is always tommorow

Not bad at all!  Even if you get a small amount done, it still means you're moving forward.  Plus, most of the time, even when you're busy with other things, you're probably still thinking about where to go next--still moving forward :D

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Author Craft / Re: On the Utter Drek we write and Show verus Tell
« on: April 11, 2012, 02:49:33 AM »
Thanks for that, Deposed.  I think I've discovered another detrimental "thing" toward writing--when you start reading books more analytically and looking at what other authors do vs. what you do.  I'm sort of wondering if it's possible to read the genre you're writing while you're writing.

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Author Craft / Re: stupid question but can any of you help me
« on: April 09, 2012, 01:35:51 AM »
Sounds like the characters probably will be important later, but you just don't have a use for them right now.  I'm going to guess that what you have is just a small plot glitch, which you could easily fix with a few lines of dialogue/a little explanation when you're ready for those characters to come back into play.

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Author Craft / Re: On the Utter Drek we write and Show verus Tell
« on: April 09, 2012, 01:33:06 AM »
Just out of curiosity, do you think that a person can have too much dialogue?  Somehow, with the project I'm working on, the dialogue is flowing.  The description and passages in between, not so much, but I know I can go back to that.  However, I am very heavy on the dialogue and wondering if that is going to be a problem.  That and trying to figure out why dialogue is coming so easy.

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hay i just looked at my word count some how it increast by 300 words with out me noticing i have ritton more then i thought
but thanks

good luck with your writting everyone  ;D

CWG

You are definitely making steady progress!  It's nice when everything just flows, and before you notice it, the pages have just rolled out :D


I hit page 150 this week, which is by far the longest piece of fiction I've ever wrote.  I did a little happy dance--okay, I didn't move out of my chair for the happy dance because it's more like just moving my arms around since I'm considerably lacking in the dance skills department, but hey :P

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Author Craft / Re: Are Readers Growing Tired of New Urban Fantasy?
« on: April 08, 2012, 01:05:22 PM »
A writer who seems to be flourishing in this new category is Sarah Addison Allen. The one I read was Garden Spells. I don't even know where it's classed in the book stores. I guess it's Charmed without the demons and world threatening plot lines.

You are very right about Sarah Addison Allen.  I sort of characterize her along the same lines as Alice Hoffman.  Both of them have a a touch of magic here and there in their novels, but the novels tend to be more centered on normal life issues like family, finding one's place in the world, etc.--Garden Spells even touches on domestic abuse.  I clump both authors in with magical realism because they often focus on cultural issues as well.

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Apparently I got con crud at I-Con. Or something. Scratchy throat and coughing aren't too conducive to writing.  I've gotten maybe 1/2-3/4 page written the past two days.  So less than 250 words.  But I'm hoping this stuff will die quick, and the writing should pick up easily since I know where the next few scenes go.

Once you get past the sucky crud (which could be a good band name), it sounds like you'll be flowing again! 

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The long awaited screenplay is almost ready. 4 years in the making.
5 scenes left to revise for the new draft. Then one pass for typos.
Then off to posting to Amazon Studios.

Congrats on that and good luck!  That is so exciting!


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Author Craft / Re: On the Utter Drek we write and Show verus Tell
« on: April 05, 2012, 02:45:42 AM »
I grinded today (that really should be a real word."  I am very proud to announce that I completely realize the first half of my last chapter was completely forced drek :P  I had an idea that I don't think really fits anymore, but damn it, I was gonna write it :D

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Author Craft / Re: Are Readers Growing Tired of New Urban Fantasy?
« on: April 05, 2012, 02:39:34 AM »
There definitely is a place for paranormal romance, after all, a huge chunk of the populations wants that romance--it's the feel good warmth it can exude that draws most fans--that happily ever after that appeals to all of us fairy tale lovers (and I am no exception there).  And, I want to make sure I emphasize that not all of them are the same.  Those gems in between sameness are the ones we usually cling to.

I think the problem that I, personally, have, is that many of the series don't focus so much on the story, but on an exceedingly limited formulaic process, particularly in paranormal romances where there is always a "true mate."  Character A meet character B.  They are destined for one another.  They have a lot of sex (which if most of us are honest, it's the only thing we're flipping through the books for :P)  there's a big conflict because Character B's life is going to be irrevocably changed, then happily ever after after when Character B accepts said change.  Rinse and repeat with different characters.

Is this all there is to paranormal romance?  Of course not.  Is this what the market is flooded with?  Yes.

And then we can twist back to the impact on urban fantasy as well.  Sex sells.  Hence, we get Laurell K. Hamilton's Anita Blake books.  Anita's as vanilla as you get through (if I remember right) the first five books.  Then bam, the books suddenly open up with menages, which immediately divides fans into the old and the new. This series has probably one of the most violent reactions not because there's suddenly lots of sex, but because the character change is too rapid and trying to fit a growing market.

Okay, so now I'm swinging back around again--I think it's pretty much a cyclical pattern, as are most things in life, but paranormal romance impacts urban fantasy, and vice versa, but the authors we love the most tend to be the ones that buck the trends.

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