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Messages - chrnno

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You guys do realize you are arguing different things, right? At least I see it as that.

One is talking about if the rings fit what is considered potential energy in physics while the other is arguing that it should be expanded so that it does.

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I do wonder though, maybe it is just me not having paid enough attention/too long since I last read but if they store a part of the energy of movements does that mean all movements? And plus does he have any control over how much it is? I mean someone moving by their own power or someone doing so for them has no true difference so shouldn't the rings be a rather good defense against brute force attacks?

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This seems too obvious, I think the fact I am somewhat sleep deprived is not allowing me to actually think it through.

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??? that is how magic works? He either forms it directly from his willpower/charge or he slurps in raw magic and creates his spell. Redirection is easier but thats not what he does usually. Otherwise a gout of fire would create an area of cold as heat is displaced. Redirection is what he did in changes tearing the heat from those vampires and casting it at the next.  :o I think your making wrong assumptions about how magic works?
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I thought we were talking about the rings? That was what I was talking about, the start is kinetic energy and the end result is kinetic energy without any difference in how much, arguing what it is in the meantime is making a baseless assumption since the rings were never really explained and all terms refering to them fall under what is considered casual use and thus not suitable to argue specific terms.

And by the way doesn't that happens? I am pretty sure I recall instances of him doing exactly that.

Also I edited the post to make it more clear exactly what I am talking about plus no comment about the first theory? It is technically possible.

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I would say clearly it is time manipulation, the rings are just pushing the energy a second ahead so that it in effect doesn't exist in the here and now while being perfectly stored. Since space and time are related when released they always do so in the manner they were created to do without problem to where it came from.

Or I guess if you want to be closer to the books then he is simply doing what he does every time he describes either using the power of a storm or redirecting heat to make both ice and fire. Energy redirected, not changed, or even affected at all. Saying anything else is assuming how(ring) magic works.

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That's one way of looking at it. Another is that since magic allows one sidestep the whole thing, the best analogy I thought in the minute since I read the post is that it is a like paper, ripping it apart is pretty easy but try holding the extremes and pull it...

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