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DF Spoilers / Re: Vadderung
« on: July 29, 2020, 05:55:56 AM »
He does act kinder in the Dresdenverse than he is typically shown to be in Norse mythos, but that could be from carrying Kringles Mantle assuming it wasn't his to begin with.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Peace Talks favorite quotes (obviously spoilers)
« on: July 27, 2020, 03:42:23 PM »
There is a "Hell's balls, Lara" that I suspect it's a typo but I laughed at it.

Lets be real here, can you think of anyone Hell would rather have having it's balls, it's usually a package deal.

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DF Spoilers / Re: The British Prisoner
« on: July 27, 2020, 03:33:55 PM »
Good to see you Dina. ;)

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DF Spoilers / Re: The British Prisoner
« on: July 27, 2020, 03:55:42 AM »
Isn't it basically telepathic communication anyway? If it's Arthur, he might just come across to Harry as sounding British because Arthur is an archetypically British figure. Doesn't necessarily mean he actually speaks English with a modern British accent.

If it *is* Arthur, would that mean Demonreach is Avalon?

More like Avalon's evil twin... Nolava!  ;D

Edit:  Or somewhat less incredibly goofy, Winter's counterpart to Summers Avalon. ;)

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DF Spoilers / Re: Peace Talks Thoughts [SPOILERS]
« on: July 27, 2020, 03:52:55 AM »
  I don't think Inari could help it, it may even coexist when she menstruates for the first time.  When she menstruates her body is able to reproduce..  Now there are a number of reasons why sex at that age may not be a good thing, but I doubt the Hunger takes that into account.  Hormones start firing and in White Court vamps it triggers the seduction urge big time.  The first time this happens the host is more or less at it's mercy, Lord Raith knows that, that is why he sent Inari to Harry.  To seduce him, have uncontrolled sex which would lead to his death and the full awakening of her Hunger..

I was just noting two separate instances of Hungers that weren't fully manifested being able to feed without killing the victims, when I read the initail post I somehow missed a LOT of things that were written, I was kinda distracted at the time... 

Looking at it now I'm kinda befuddled on how I came to some of the conclusions I made about the conclusions they made... and then I compounded it with my next post where I stated almost word for word part of what they said about the old copper circle... (Although I do stand by the possibility of it being a spare if there is no evidence of it being actually set into the stone somehow.)

Jeeze I leave the forums for 6 years... come back... and this is how I say hello after all this time.  :-\

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DF Spoilers / Re: Peace Talks Thoughts [SPOILERS]
« on: July 26, 2020, 05:11:59 PM »
someone pointed out years ago now(cannot remember who) that his circle actually changes from copper to bronze and back to copper before he ever had it upgraded. So yea, something's off about that..

A somewhat cheap fix/Retcon (edit: or explanation) is the fact that these books are sometimes considered (or speculated to be in the forums) his journals written after the fact in the tradition starting all the way back with Merlin.  Harry could simply be remembering things wrong...

Oooorrrrrr... he may not have thrown the old circle away, I still have my old laptop sitting in a corner right now, I didn't just throw it away when I got this computer.  I do need to look up some things though, like if his circle was embedded in the floor...

Edit: He did refer to it as his OLD summoning circle, and keep in mind that while it's been 10 years since he had the appartment to us, for him it's been ... 2, 3 years?  My copy of Changes is a hardcopy and buried somewhere so I can't check that as easily as my kindle

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DF Spoilers / Re: Peace Talks Thoughts [SPOILERS]
« on: July 26, 2020, 04:49:42 PM »
Inari went after Harry without knowing what was happening, so she (and other nascent Whampires) are still driven to feed before the Hunger reaches critical mass at the (ahem) culmination of the first sex act.  In the Bigfoot shorts the college whampire WAS feeding on River Shoulders kid, the kid (I forget both their names, sorry) was just too damn strong to die. 

So a larval Hunger is still driven too and actively eats, it just doesn't give all the perks/pitfalls until the Hunger gets it's first kill.


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Doesn't the last Starborn predate Mab being in her position though?  When was the Last Starborn active, about a thousand years ago?  And Mab has been WQ since Hastings, was it?  Which is maybe a thousand years ago, but it's also off by 5%.  And that assumes that she jumps right into it immediately.

Two points:

1.  Where is this knowledge of previous Starborns coming from?  The only references that come to mind are Lash's comments in the Deeps and Erlking's acknowledgement of Harry's repulsion of Sharkface's mental whammy, there is one more from Maeve IIRC when she has Harry pretty much beat.  Since there is a name for it that at least 2 people know we can assume that they have occurred over the years but I have no other context to place them in the timeline.

If this is WOJ then if someone can include it that would be great.

2.  Why do we think Mab has only been Queen since the Battle of Hastings, that was the last time she saw her sister true but how does that fit with her Mantle.

Again if the is WOJ then could someone find it or at least state it as such?

Many Thanks

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DF Spoilers / Re: Ivy and the Obllivion War
« on: November 19, 2012, 04:40:42 AM »
I'm pretty sure this will never make it into the actual Dresden Files, since Harry has no idea the Oblivion War is happening, along with everyone else.  So I'll share it here. :)

The Archive was constructed /for/ the Oblivion War.  Specifically.

Yes, the Archive (and Ivy, the two aren't really divisible) know about these forgotten beings.  The Archive is in essence the keeper of the dead, where they are concerned.  Once the archive believes one of them has been consigned to oblivion, she holds on to the memory of that being briefly, for another thousand years or so, watching for any mention of that being in print in an effort to make sure that she is the /last/ person alive who remembers whichever hideous entity has been consigned.

And once the safety period has elapsed, and the Archive is confident that no one else remembers, she deletes the memory from the Archive.  Bad guy, /gone/.

She also tries to keep track of the enemy players in the Oblivion War via watching for communications and so on.  When she finds a trace of them, somewhere, she lets a cell of operatives (like Lara and Thomas) know what's up, through a blind drop, and sends them off to handle the problem.

The Oblivion War is a huge, /slow/ thing.  Stuff happens every few decades, at most.  That's why the Archive was created--to be an immortal awareness, something that could track and intelligently direct responses to the enemy in a war happening on an almost geological scale.

All that other stuff she says the Archive is for?   Smoke and mirrors. :)

Kincaid, by the way, has no idea that the Oblivion War exists.  It isn't like Ivy explains this stuff.  She just gives orders. :)

    http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,34801.msg1663694.html#msg1663694

Thanks for the confirmation, I drop in once or twice a month so I missed that one, if I knew Jim was still currently active in the thread I may have paid more attention, old posts said he didn't anymore (that was a while ago).

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Nope, recent WOJ says that Ivy is the leader of the Oblivion War. She keeps track of all the names of different monsters/gods etc and if there has been no recordings of them over 1000 years she deletes the info from her internal database. She just doesn't let anyone know this about her.

Oh that's a new one for me, I'll take your word for it, but if you could or someone could post the WOJ I'd be grateful.  Dang I thought I had a good counter-argument.

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You're right. The 'our' problem is really difficult. I would point that deadly plagues grow stronger near MS, and that MW says that death gives value to life, so it's not totally impossible. It's also the old Ying-Yang dichotomie after all.

And about two different names:

So I may be stretching the facts, but I'm not completely hallucinating... ;D

I can almost see in the BAT an event that Harry has to call both Mothers, where he has either has given MW the Blackstaff already or he has it to offer as a bargining chip.

"Life, Death, Gaia(or some other Mother Nature equivalent, Mother Nature is the full cycle of life, so it belongs to them both)."

Followed be a Fae style bargain and much badassery... that will probably bite him in the ass, he did just call into battle a being that uses bio-chemical warfare after all.

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The office of each of the queens is a mantle, just like the winter knight, Mab was once mortal before she ascended through a rite similar to the dark hallow as per WOJ, so, I am sure, is Mw.  She is also Baba Yaga of the iron teeth and cleaver, she is also Atropos and Skuld, who was the original and what powers are innate to her? Unknown, but I think we have WOJ that the last ice age was the transition of the old Mother S to the current one, so that dates her somewhat...
Each of the immortals seem to add a mantle that has current relevance in order to maintain power in opposition to the Oblivian War.  Ivy is the enemy of all of them, odd that she is a signatory to the accords...

How is Ivy an enemy of the Fae?  Every word ever written is distilled in her mind, her Archive.  If anything the Fae should have a string of bodyguards keeping track of her at all times, she's the last failsafe from them being cut off from the mortal world.  If she's the enemy to anyone it's the Venators, the only way they can ever truly end the Oblivion War is if ALL mortal knowldge of the beings they want to banish is gone, and it will still be there as long as the Archive exists.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: The top selling books in the Dresdenverse
« on: September 24, 2012, 01:55:50 AM »
Cooking for a Mongol Horde by Charity Carpenter

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Worst Kick in the Gut Moments in the Series
« on: September 13, 2012, 06:18:07 AM »
I think he (Uriel) smiled. That usually signals approval, at least of Justine in skimpy lingerie.  ;)

I took that as Uriel approving on both levels.  ;)

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Worst Kick in the Gut Moments in the Series
« on: September 12, 2012, 04:55:28 AM »
1st and last sight of Murphy in GS anyone? or seeing Thomas' grief? Murphy in GP when she got psycho-wammied. Micky Malone. the ghosts at Biancas

Justine seems to have taken care of (some of) Thomas' trouble... even Uriel approves.

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