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DF Spoilers / Re: In Retrospect The Relevance Of Storm Front and Full Moon
« on: July 27, 2023, 10:47:20 AM »
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Harry makes lots of mistakes but I'm looking for what you think are big critical ones that will return some how in future books. Here are some of mine.Turning down Ebenezar's help after finding out he's the Blackstaff. Well, assuming that He Who Walks Behind did get summoned back like he said rather than just pretending he was to fuck with Harry.
1. Handing over the Book of Kemmler to Mavra. She was blackmailing him, but was protecting a friend from her career getting ruined worth handing over a book like that to a monster? I don't think so, and I imagine it's going to come up again.
2. Staking claim to Demon Reach. This was a really big move, and it seems to have worked out well for him. That being said, Jim said "He's going to wish he never stepped foot on that Island". So I imagine it was a bad move.
3. Splitting up Bob. Seemed like a good idea, but I think Evil Bob is out there, allied with who knows who. He had access to horrible knowledge. Can't imagine that will end well.
4. Killing the entire Red Court. Some of that may be becoming apparent already with the Fomor. I'm wondering if Harry will realize he had another option, and the one he chose was the wrong one. As a wizard I'm wondering if he could have worked out a spell, and used that source of power for something else, rather than sacrifice Susan and wipe out out the Red's.
Just some off the top of my head. Can you think of some critical decisions he made that may have appeared right but will return to haunt him later?
Since Harry has his lab back now, I assume potions are also back. They are not stupid, chemistry is one of the primary areas of study of wizards historically, let's not forget it was a potion that allowed Harry and company to sneak in and spring Thomas.Stupid OP is short for stupidly overpowered, as in something so useful that there's no sane reason you're not using it constantly.
Really, well, Harry did use a very serious toy in Battle Ground, the Spear, the thing is he knew enough to keep it under wraps until he needed to use it, not the actions of an idiot... He matched his will against a Titan, no toys there, just his will. If Harry was an idiot, he never would have gained access to those very important and powerful toys he found in the vault of Hades back in Skin Game.You're swimming against the current there, even Jim gets in on calling Harry an idiot. Being smart in some ways does nothing to stop him being an idiot in others.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g6EbjOFxKYTime for me to get typing.
The Reddit write up didn't include my question that Jim answered. "Must the fae queen mantles go to mortals and does it change their DNA?"Load it up pleese.
Jim answered, Yes, and yes. Since mortals are the only ones who have free will, the queens must start out with free will. Which is odd, because we've already seen examples of how Molly doesn't have free will in all things, already.
Later, one of the other questions was about Harry's free will. Jim said that his free will is dependent upon how many commands Mab saddles him with.
I have an audio file of the Q&A. I intend to write a transcript, but I haven't had time. Perhaps I'll load it up to YouTube.
Would winter have become more like summer if the summer knight was sacrificed on the stone table?Considering the power would have actually gone over to winter instead of having a matter/anti-matter reaction that takes out a summer knight sized chunk of winter's power there's got to be some kind of filtering system in the stone table, we just don't have details.
🤔 no he wasn't? He was discussing what happened with anduriel while harry gave him mad amounts of lip, that's not a self preservation instinct, that's harry. Harry's not an IT either so..
His arm quivered for a second, and then he lowered his eyelids until they were almost closed. A moment later he very, very slowly relaxed his arm, allowing me to breathe again. My throat burned, but air came in, and I wheezed for a second or two while he stepped back from me.
I glared up at him and debated slamming him through one of those Corinthian columns by way of objecting to being manhandled. But I decided that I didn’t want to piss him off.
Nicodemus’s lips moved, but an entirely different voice issued from them—something musical, lyrical, and androgynous. “At least it has some survival instinct.”
After Changes or at the end of Proven Guilty? Just before he turned the coin over to Father Forthill at the end of Proven Guilty he thought he heard Lash, that scared him so he got rid of the coin. In Changes it is implied that it was Lasciel that goaded him into suicide, the coin still could have been locked away in Forthill's office. I don't think she affected Harry after that, implied or otherwise.You're getting your timelines muddled there. The coin was under his lab before PG and it stayed there until the end of book 9 (WN). In book 12 (Changes) it has been several years since book 9 so it would be exceedingly unlikely that Forthill hadn't passed the coin along by then.
I'm still lost. No Denarian is good enough to do the hellfire at Arctis Tor, but Namshiel did it?Namshiel is the magic nerd of the denarians that's part of why he's singled out as the prime suspect even though Rosanna's thing is fire, fire and more fire.
I'm of the camp that Namshiel was likely the source of the hellfire in the attack on Arctis Tor, but I don't follow what you're trying to say.
Perhaps we are differing on what we call spells. I'd call a specific directed instance of magical energy a spell, so things like the shadowy serpent thing and Rosanna's lances of fire qualify as spells. The line gets a bit blurrier with the energy surrounding Deirdre's hair.
I think the assumption is based on who could be that good to use that much fire in Winter. TN seems to qualify, where few do. One question, though - when did Harry turn in Lasciel? Could Hannah Ascher, a good fire mage even before taking up a coin, have picked her up and been the fire user? Lasciel is not as good as TN, but Hannah starts way above Marcone.He turned Lasciel in after White Night, the book after Proven Guilty, she then took it up some time (implied to be a few weeks or so) after Changes.
Thomas attempted to murder their leader. He's missing, and at large. He's close to a Harry Dresden who will now be marrying his sister. I have to imagine that the Svartalves see this as an attempt by the White Court to assassinate their leader, and they are now protecting Thomas with the help of the exiled wizard Dresden.They went from glaring at Harry on sight to lying to help him corner Marcone at the meeting so I'd say that Harry cleared that up offscreen.
You know it would be really interesting if Harry working with Bob, and Bonea were able to put together a potion, or talisman or something that allowed him to use his Sight, but not be so completely floored by what he saw. Work kind of sunglasses letting in some light, but protecting you from light that's too bright. I wouldn't be surprised if Senior members of the Council can open up their Sight in a more controlled way, to have more control over it. I'm almost positive that Rashid's magical eye allows him to use the Sight in a more controlled way.That's basically Luccio's old glasses, also way too useful for whodunit parts of the plot to be allowed by Jim.
In Proven Guilty, Harry pulls up his sight to inspect the bathroom where Pell was attacked and he confirms there's something "spooky" at work. Would he have been able to use his Sight to look at Luccio in Dead Beat to confirm his thought that Corpse Taker took over Luccio's body? I know it was a spur of the moment decision, but if given another couple of moments, would he have been able to do it?Yes but that'd probably incapacitate him long enough for Corpsetaker to kill him and the wounded wardens. I can't imagine Corpsetaker is nice to look at with the sight.
We know Murphy had a blazing angel look to herself through Harry's sight.
I figure Luccio would've had something recognizable (Not that Harry would know what to look for after the body switch--something tainted maybe?)
In BG, I think Harry turned heads because he genuinely surprised the big players. They weren't aware of how chummy Harry had become with the Little Folk (since they're mostly ignored by them and nobody had real success uniting them before).Pretty much, it's one thing to hear that he's got a couple dozen pixie minions, it's another to see those couple dozen pixies are armed, armoured and in perfect sync and there's a couple million irregulars on call who are also organised.
Remember that a group like that was enough for Harry to take down Aurora before other power ups. That that was how he did it is probably not widely known, but uniting the Little Folk is not a small feat to totally escape notice.
Yeah, I think that's a really good analogy.
I think there was a WOJ about whether the Paranet could sign up. Basically they'd have to win some fights before they'd build sufficient respect. Teaming up with the Librarians could help, but that's at best a long-term prospect since the Librarians are supposed to be really careful about not even being noticed by any supes. Plus, there's a national organization, and while the Paranet are centered in the US, they are to some extent trans-national - that's an additional dimension of obstacle.
Applying as a freeholding lord would also be tricky - the Council would lean on other signatories not to support him because it's an end-run around being expelled, and Marcone would exert similar pressure because signing up a Wizard of Chicago introduces uncertainty about whether Chicago is the territory of the Wizard or the Baron, and Mab's attitude toward it would be a coin-toss between liking a knight with a power base and disliking too much independence.
Warden of Demonreach might have more juice to get recognized than Wizard of Chicago, but announcing that one any wider than it's already known is probably a bad move. He's not going to be able to sucker-punch anyone else too stupid or arrogant to realize the danger of imprisonment.
Priscellie: What would the Paranet have to do to be considered a big enough body to sign the accords? And this is from poly? granada?
Jim: Oh they'd have to win some fights, is what they'd have to do. At the end of the day, in the supernatural world, among the various political powers, what gets you respect is the ability to thrash them. And if you can do that then they have to take you seriously because if they don't then you can thrash them. So that would be what they would really have to do, it would be something, a very difficult thing for them to do. It'd take an awful lot of coordination and leadership so it would take an awful extreme situation for something like that to come together. And I can't imagine where in the Dresden Files universe an extreme situation like that might exist *smirks and lifts mug while Priscellie laughs*.