Ok, we have a WAG today. Specifically detailing why Mab wants to ally with the White Court and is using Dresden to do it.

At this point Nemesis has strong ties or infiltrated all of the known Vampire Courts.

The Reds before they were wiped out were summoning Outsiders during the war with the White Council and timing most of their major offensives in cases Harry was handling that had Major Implications and consequences for both Mab and the state of the Supernatural world. This happened during Summer Knight, Dead Beat, Proven Guilty and is also supported by the fact the Reds were snubbing Mab by using the Ways.

The Black Court. In Grave Peril, Mavra was working closely with Bianca, who had ties to Cowl and Kumari. In Dead Beat, Mavra coincidentally she sent Dresden after the Word of Kemmerer  *exactly* when Cowl and Kumori were going after it. Her motivations were hinted at Necromancy and its abilities to control Blampires, however I doubt that was the *only* reason. It seemed more like she used Dresden as a cat's paw to act on her behalf without outwardly acting against her "allies". Mavra again pops up during Battle Ground with Dracula during another Nemfected sponsored assault on Mab and the Accords.

The White Court; Most obviously and firstly, during Blood Rites where Lord Raith was helping the cult of "porn star sorceresses" use Outsider sponsored entropy curses. Madge was even possessed by HWWB.

We see White Court vampire possession by an Outsider again in White Night by Vittorio Malvora who had enlisted Madrigal Raith's help and involvement. In Turn Coat we also see Madeline Raith also be enlisted on behalf on the Traitor in the search for Donald Morgan, this works two-fold by also implicating the White Court in engaging in hostilities with the White Council. Lastly, in Battle Ground where we find out Justine is also infected by Nemesis and possessed and was able to blackmail Thomas into acting against the Svartelves, which again, brings the White Court into hostilities.

My theory is, Mab is definitely aware of this and seeking to marry off Dresden to ally the Winter Court and White Court are two fold. One, it gives Mab a concrete ally and try to cut off Nemesis' playback taking over or manipulating the White in further hostilities as they will essentially be backed by Mab and vice-versa. Two, Dresden has a knack for disrupting the plots of Nemesis and exposing their plants. Having Dresden in such close proximity to the White Court might force any other Nemfected or allies of Nemesis to expose themselves in an attempt to avoid detection by Nemesis or take Dresden out. Mab gets 3 for 1 deal, a concrete ally in the White Court, potentially getting any Nemesis plants to expose themselves or get taken out by Dresden, and third outmanuevering  Nemesis before they subvert the entirety of the remaining Vampire Courts to their side.

Unlike Haru, I think the duration rules are both fine and necessary; magic is powerful enough. Taking away the duration issues make it much more so.

If you're sticking to RAW and if the wizard puts shifts into duration, then it should be just as difficult to overcome whether he's focusing on it still or not. That's the difference between calling up a quick gust of wind (no extra duration) and a windstorm that hangs around for a while. That's the advantage magical maneuvers bring to the table (the others are the higher power you can put into it, and the additional impossible things you can justify maneuvering with magic you couldn't otherwise.)


Also...you're using the word "beat" when talking about overcoming a maneuver; I don't know if that's just you using a term you like, or a misunderstanding of the rules, but: You only need to tie an aspect's strength to get rid of it if you're spending an action to overcome it (as opposed to an automatic defense roll where you do in fact have to beat the roll and a tie results in a fragile aspect).

That's me using a term I like lol

The Laws aren't built like that, I'm afraid. We have Word of Jim that pushing a person off a building with magic is still breaking the Law, because your magic is still involved. It's not a matter of 'this spell isn't meant to be lethal'. It's a matter of 'this spell caused someone to die'.

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I haven't read the Bigfoot trilogy, so forgive me if I'm getting this wrong, but the Genoskwa isn't human and doesn't have a soul. That leaves him fair game from a Lawbreaking point of view, same as any other non-White Court non-human. The mechanics don't matter when it comes to this because this is a setting specific aspect.

They are, but not much. Harry only got around it by having the Blackstaff as his grandfather while Molly got very lucky that the Gatekeeper showed up at her trial.

I could go either way on this myself too, because I see Renfields as being little more than the shattered remains of a human being. That said, Rasmussen still had a soul despite being tortured into insanity by Ursiel, so insanity/mental trauma may not be enough.

So I'd probably adjudicate it based on the type of game being played. If you're going for a less serious adventure where the players kick ass and take names, I'd say no Lawbreaker. If it's a more serious game or one focused on horror, I'd say put it out there as an option. If you're a dick, do it and only tell them afterwards.

For the Skin Game reference I think that example was to illustrate
Honestly it's an interesting subject. That being said, I think the magic has to be somehow directed in order to break a Law. For example, wind magic being used to blow someone off a building, the magic is being directed with not only the intent to cause fatal injury but a direct vehicle of said injury.

How would conflicts work? Time management wise? Is there a cut-off limit for the number of people for "scheduled" game? Would it be akin to fate core rules for mobs or just 10-15 people battles?

It sounds pretty interesting but just trying to get a feel for how this would work.

Also, how will availability work? First come, first serve? I mean this in terms of 1 WK, SK, 3 Bearers of he swords

Ah. When compared to other powers your point is well taken Tedroni.  Maybe we can also add something to the power about firing off his IoPs /Broken Noble Phantasms? Something like add the refresh value of the IoP to its weapon value.   I.E, my. Character traces the IoP Excalibur which has a refresh 4 and a weapon value of 3, character turns excalibur into a broken IoP adding he refresh and weapon value which now gives it a weapon rating of 7. The broken Excalibur can only be used for that one attack though. That weapon can no longer be traced for the remainder of the scene or session though. How does that sound?

How  did i miss that....? Thank you Sanctaphrax, that is amazing. Curious about what to do with his reality marble though, Quasi Modular Abilities would even work with tracing Swords of the Cross and the like, if i could actually get my character to see the weapon now. Do you think the Demesne trapping would work?

Thank you for input everyone. Guess I'll be making a stunt then lol.
 Something along the lines of "My Sword is My Shield"

brainstorm time!!!