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DFRPG / Re: The One Ring DFRPG Stats
« on: December 07, 2011, 03:04:17 AM »But here's a counter:Two comments: Sithrovax was the weakest of the Dragons and the Swords of the Cross explicitly have different levels of power depending on who they are fighting and aren't just swords, they are direct channels of the power of the White God and his servants (their stats in the game only sort of reflect this variability). Against a normal human they are little more than swords, against the entirety of the Red Court one allowed an Archangel to gain control of the wielder for a short period of time and channel power quite a bit of power through them. More than likely Michael's fight vs. Sithrovax could more accurately be describe as an Archangel controlling Michael's body vs. a Dragon.
Whenever Jim lists "beings that can take Mab on" he includes Ferrovax. Note that he also includes the enter White Council, Drakul, and a few others, but Ferrovax is there. Ah - found it - the post is at http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,11012.msg462610.html#msg462610.
Why is Ferrovax such a big deal? Because he's a greater dragon. Now he used to have brother, name of Sirothrax, who did various things - but he doesn't have that brother anymore. Why? Because that brother ran into a sword. A Sword of the Cross, but a sword just the same.
That's right - a sword with comparability low refresh held by a Knight of the Cross kill the brother of something that could take on Mab. If a Sword of the Cross could do that, then why wouldn't a Sword be able to take on Mab?
But statting them out is a bit like statting the One Ring (see? I got back on topic). A plot device is a plot device. Giving a plot device stats is meaningless. It's like trying to work out the shifts needed to do the spell the Red Court tried. Weeks of prep time at the center of ley lines with dozens (if not hundreds) of human sacrifices - how many shifts would that be? If you call that number X you'll see that it's the same number of shifts needed by a spell to kill Mab (there's some speculation that Donar Vadderung is part of Dresden's family tree and was the real target) and the same number of shifts that One Ring could produce.
For X = the amount that plot requires.
Richard