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DFRPG / Relationship between Thaumaturgy and Evocation...
« on: April 23, 2011, 02:49:44 PM »
Ok, so I managed to get my books and I've been poring over them for the last two days absorbing all that I can from them.  In the sections on magic, it states that they didn't put in separate blurbs about pyromancy or kinetomancy in the thaumaturgy areas because those are normally expressed through evocation.  I'm honestly surprised Harry or Bob didn't speak up in the margins on this one, since I can think of a number of ways to use thamarurgy with pyromancy for heavy effect right off the top of my head.  Say for instance you're going up against a scourge of blampires, you know where their nest is and you know they have no hostages.  Instead of fighting them direct, a wizard could conceivably just gather up some samples of their dwelling and use those to link to the real thing in much the way Harry used a single sprinkler head to link to every sprinkler head in the train station during Small Favor.  In other words, firebombing the place without the need to be anywhere near it when the place goes up.

So my question, going off the book would it be more acceptable to be capable of something like that if you had fire as one of the elements you're specialized in concerning evocation?  Does what you take with one affect what you can be good at with the other?

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DFRPG / Re: White Court and Circles
« on: April 22, 2011, 08:32:42 AM »
Exactly, assuming you get a circle set up around the WCV that actually works, it'll protect you from what's inside.  But it won't stay in there forever, and unlike a Loup Garou it isn't going to turn back into a less threatening/potentially grateful human.  It's still gonna be a full powered WCV.

Which is where my idea came from, something that does everything the above discussed circle can do while also lowering the energy reserves of the WCV's Hunger, making it weaker and easier to deal with the longer its inside.  But yeah, either way I'm sure specialized circles would be required to hold someone from the White Court, a plain old circle they'd walk right through.

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DFRPG / Re: White Court and Circles
« on: April 22, 2011, 07:12:46 AM »
WCV seem to draw all of their power from within, from the Hunger, rather than without.  It's mentioned in some books that just trapping beings dependent on ectoplasm to form a body will lose cohesion and fall apart if you put a circle up around them.  So yeah, even if a specialized circle like MacFinn's in play and make it work I am guessing there will just be a pissed off WCV, fully powered, waiting inside.

I was thinking, with the somewhat fluid rules of spellcasting in play would there be a way to rig up a circle that actively drains the power from the target inside, in addition to trapping external power away from them?  That seems like it would be more effective, excepting that if you left them inside too long the Hunger would drive them into a mad feeding frenzy.

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Then a look of almost childish resentment came over her face, and she looked over one shoulder before
turning back to me. "I…" She shook her head and said, very softly, wonderingly,"She… doesn't deserve
you."

Both Harry and Lash herself seem to accept that Lasciel and Lash are very separate beings.  Lash was supposedly as malleable as Harry himself, and gained free will (which makes perfect sense, she is after all not an Angel fallen or otherwise, but a shadow, and one who exists in a free willed being's mind at that).  So unless later events show this to be a lie/misunderstanding in some way, I am entirely fine with the idea that Lash was redeemed... or if not fully redeemed at least became a better being prior to the end.  But that is rather far afield of the original question this topic was meant for, so I shall now bow out until I have relevant thoughts again. 

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DFRPG / Re: Wards and Thresholds
« on: April 21, 2011, 05:57:41 AM »
From my understanding of things, a threshold is not needed for a ward, it's just needed to make wards with stronger attributes/any sort of longevity.  See Proven Guilty where Harry is limited to a detection web at the convention.  Or his amazement at Elaine's wards (which are permeable to the living but not to smoke) in White Knight, specifically because she lacked a threshold to anchor them to/build on.

I don't have nearly enough grasp of the game rules and mechanics to answer the initial question with certainty or in the correct terms.  ... But, going by Harry's extensively powerful wards (both the offensive ones and the full on lock-down ward used in Death Masks) built on/anchored to his relatively puny threshold, I'd guess the strength of the threshold has little or no effect.  The presence of any threshold will allow the wizard more options for the ward and longevity once completed, and from there it is entirely dependent on the level of power/skill/imagination of the caster as to how it turns out.

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I've seen a whole lot of "your table, your rules" type bits on many matters since I got here.  I personally agree, once I think about it, that even an Unravelling couldn't save a Blampire.  It would undo the enchantment exactly as described and leave a corpse as stated earlier.  If I was handling GM duties (ha!) that's how I'd run it on the off chance someone managed to get their hands on such an item.

But!  "Your table, your rules," and all.  If a GM is willing to go with it, then for the purposes of that game something could be worked out.  Even if a purist like myself would be loathe to go against WoJ.   ;D

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DFRPG / Re: Noob seeking... pretty much everything...
« on: April 21, 2011, 05:03:21 AM »
Yo, sorry to everyone who responded that I didn't shoot a reply back sooner.  I was out and about most of the day.  I am annoyed to report that I could not get my stuff today as planned, as apparently no one in my area sells any form of tabletop game materials except D&D.  So, looks like its gonna have to be the internet to the rescue... except I live on cash, with no credit cards/bank accounts at present.  So yeah, might take me a bit longer to get into this than I'd hoped.  I'll just have to be patient... again.

Ok, not gonna bother to "@so-and-so" as I respond to more specific in the thread atm, you all know who you are I'm sure.  I do apologize for not being more specific in asking about the ways of the tabletop game.  When I said "noob" in reference to myself, I meant it.  I literally do not even know where to begin asking.  Did not mean to make anyone think I literally wanted them to tell me everything all at once.  That'd be a tall order indeed.  But, matters of learning the game can somewhat be put on the back burner for now since I have no game to learn.  In the meantime I may look into the suggestions about looking into the SRD of some other Fate based game and the bits of Your Story on Google to at least get some concepts of the mechanics. 

In searching for a place that sells DFRPG, I did come across a gaming shop/meeting place.  They don't carry this game, but still might be worth looking into.  The Dresden Files are awesome enough I can easily see getting someone interested even if they'd never heard of it before.  Aside from that possibility though RL is pretty much out of the question, since I have virtually no social contacts outside of the internet at present.  Still, I am sure I could find a good play by post as suggested, or seduce some of my online friends into the ways of Dresden and get a game going with them with OpenRPG/skype or play by post.  That, even more than learning the mechanics, will have to wait till I can actually play the game of course.

Thanks for the responses guys.   

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According to Mother Winter, her
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can undo literally any enchantment or transformation.  She is the unmaker, after all.  Sure, she never comes out and says as much, but when Harry says those exact words she responds with a yes.

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DFRPG / Noob seeking... pretty much everything...
« on: April 20, 2011, 12:20:15 PM »
Hello to the forum! 

As the thread title might inform you, I'm totally new at this.  Never played a tabletop game of any sort, but I've been hungry for some Dresden Files RPG ever since I heard about it being in development ages ago.  The Dresden Files being one of my favorite things ever has a lot to do with it.

There are a couple of problems for me though.  For one none of the people I intended to play it with are in my life anymore.  For another, obviously I have no idea how the whole thing works, exactly (I do not even have my copies of the materials yet).  Definitely gonna get Our World and Your Story either way to complete my Dresden collection, but was wondering if there is anyone else with similar issues regarding a lack of folks to play with about (I've been told this game works fine with OpenRPG).

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