I kind of feel like the negative version of weapon 4: ( destruction of all you hold dear) should be a separate intimidate roll, a maneuver, or something else.  Also if a character is automatically believed to be able to do this...perhaps roleplaying without need for social combat is likely best.  Or when dealing with someone like Mab or other plot devices rolls are not needed...they have 8-12 + in skills and a weapon rating serves no purpose.

I assumed that is what maneuvers were for in social combat anyhow. 

OTOH I see no reason these can't exist... they just need tweaking.  And of course testing.

I'm not dead.

Just haven't played the system in a while.

Trying to stat up a foil for the Denarians from Lucifer's perspective.

Going for something like a mix of several tropes/existing characters that I can steal from then make it my own: Dante (DMC), Lucifer (TVshow/Gaiman's version), a generic knight of the cross if such a person were to fall from grace and get a second chance at life.  Long running redemption arc in mind with drastically changing aspects as the game goes on.

Aspects I have under control.

Thinking of a primary socialite, with a combat mode - similar to werewolves, or a devil trigger (DMC fame).


Seeking input and several versions of the character if people want to take a stab at it.  I'm fishing for ideas and cant find my books. Assume 6 refresh to spend ad a cap of +4 on skills.

I've decided I like the Dresdenverse and the Fate system enough to run a long term game based loosely on Highlander.

I'm starting it during the Bronze Age and plan on it winding up in modern times or near future times when I'm done.

I'm starting this thread for multiple reasons.

1) To have a place that all the mythical creatures can be contained

2) To help me with ideas and help with stat blocks for my game.

Feel free to put multiple versions of each critter in here. (Why? Then people can have weaker and stronger versions to challenge most refresh characters)  Stat up anything you like.  Feel free to discuss what beings could qualify as Fae even.  I'm starting with some Greek myths and the like so starting there would be nice

I'll post any monsters or beings I use in my game and if I use one someone posted here I'll let them know how it worked.

I'm thinking harpies, centaurs, satyrs, minotaurs, hydras, pegasuseseses (pegasi?).  I may even use "The Minotaur" or "The Nemean Lion". 

Thanks for any contributions in advance.  Thanks for the help, I no doubt will glean from this.

I'd go with -2. but I err on the side of caution.  I think spellcasters are nasty enough if made properly.  Giving them another spell per encounter, which is what this can amount to...could be dangerous. 

I've always been in the minority on this opinion. 

Grain of salt and all that.

I could even see the plot being a clever ploy to trick the players into unmaking a coin, which would release the fallen angel inside. Nic (or any other nicklehead) maneuvers things such that the players hate him and have access to a means to unmake one of the coins. Or he learns that they have access to such a thing, and hatches the plot. Then he puts on a big show of trying to resist them, they win the day, and unknowingly play right into his hands by freeing a fallen archangel!

Played through a plot similar to this.  It was a lot of fun.  Then I got an ego after we succeeded in stopping the freed big bad (we had some help...).  I wanted to stop the Denarians by smoking all of them and dealing with said archangels.  Which thankfully was vetoed by my in-game party members.  Still was lots of fun, I encourage trying it out.

Gods need one other thing.

Believers.

Metaphysically speaking gods and tulpas are created from the thought and belief of those who see need for them, fear them, revere them, and/or worship them.

This should be tied into their power level.

Why don't Outsiders need believers? 

1) Maybe they have believers.
2) Maybe they are so foreign to us that is yet another rule they break.

Supernaturals are hiding from mortal humanity because they fear the strength of mortals in huge mobs--not individual mortals. There's a reason that one of the strongest mortals in the setting--Murphy--is never once shown as being able to slug it out with anything supernatural. Because a pure mortal without powers isn't supposed to be able to keep up one-on-one with supernatural creatures.

Personally, I think it's perfectly in keeping with the setting and the intent of the game that pure mortal characters are stronger at low levels, but can't keep up on an individual scale once you get into the high-powered game.

That is exactly my thought on the matter.  +2 is fine.  That said, the suggested system for trying to keep them more relevant, is likely not game breaking.

Assuming no stunts are used:
Physical Combat:

• Athletics: Defends against any physical attack.
• Fists: Defends vs any melee attack.
• Weapons: Defends vs any melee attack and thrown weapon attack.

Social Combat:

• Discipline: Defends vs threats
• Empathy: Defends vs lies
• Presence: Defends vs any attacks targeting your reputation
• Rapport: Defends vs any social attack

I assume melee attack in this case means armed or unarmed at a range of melee? Sword VS Fist for example.