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DF Spoilers / Re: What do you look forward to in Peace Talks?
« on: May 10, 2020, 11:41:47 AM »
Quote from: morriswalters on May 09, 2020, 10:24:22 PM
Do you think for one moment that anyone would have checked Peabody.  He was invisible.  Always there but never in sight.

Even if they never checked Peabody, his workings were all over the place, as g33k pointed out.  All over the young wardens, who would not have gotten the same pass that Peabody  or the senior council did.

Even assuming that the temple dog statues are not always on, one would rightfully assume that they should have tripped on at least one of the hundreds of people Peabody messed with.

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DF Spoilers / Re: End of the Millenium shenanigans
« on: May 10, 2020, 11:32:57 AM »
Jesus being a Starborn was my theory, I didn't say I thought Jim was going to tell us that.  Although, it wouldn't surprise me if he had another character speculate so.  For instance Butters, if he started researching Starborns.

But again, I don't expect Jim to come right out and say that.  I've tried three times to explain that now.  Either you can't get or you choose not to.  I'm not wasting anymore of my time on this subject.

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DF Spoilers / Re: End of the Millenium shenanigans
« on: May 09, 2020, 12:06:58 PM »
Quote from: Bad Alias on May 07, 2020, 09:10:12 PM
The Sidhe, Tylwyth Teg, and some other Fae are, at least, the vestiges of Celtic religions.

My point is that Jim hasn't said much authoritatively about Christianity in the books. What we have authoritatively is extremely limited. Angels[existing real-world scripture], their relationship to God is important, Jesus was crucified[TONS of scripture] and is often referred to in a manner that implies a relationship to the "White God," choice is important[scripture], forgiveness is implied to be important[again, tons of scripture]. Everything else is characters opinions on Christianity[no scripture of any kind anywhere]. The way Jim has written the series, he has made it, or at least tried to, where someone would have to be pretty dense to get offended on a point of theology because he's stayed pretty far from any theological pronouncements [other than, say, that Uriel killed the firstborn of Egypt]. 

This all makes it highly unlikely that Jim is going to announce that Jesus was a wizard.[thank you for finally understanding my point]

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DF Spoilers / Re: End of the Millenium shenanigans
« on: May 07, 2020, 01:14:12 AM »
Quote from: Bad Alias on May 05, 2020, 12:10:19 AM
Has he? Forgiveness; Jesus existed and was crucified, maybe he rose from the dead; angels; a couple of Bible quotes; and ...

That seems pretty limited to me.

Yes, he has gone into more detail about Christianity/Catholicism than any other pantheon/system.  I don't include the Fae because I'm not sure if they are a religion, but if they are, the two are close. 

As I said before, he has avoided details on beings that have scripture describing them already, only mentioning them in passing. i.e. God, Lucifer, Jesus, Gabriel, Michael, etc...

But things like the Nails, the Shroud, Uriel; he gives rather specific details.

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DF Spoilers / Re: What do you look forward to in Peace Talks?
« on: May 04, 2020, 11:25:00 AM »
Seeing Ebenezer meet his great-granddaughters.

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DF Spoilers / Re: End of the Millenium shenanigans
« on: May 04, 2020, 11:23:26 AM »
I would not describe Jim's approach to Christianity as 'bird's eye view'.  He has gotten quite specific.

What he has done, however, is avoid any character that has real-world scripture describing them.  Everyone who thinks of themselves as Christian has image of Jesus in their minds and what he would be like in person based on what they have read in the New Testament.  If Jim were to have Jesus appear in the story, he would have to describe Him in such a way that some readers would like it and some might be put off or even offended that Jim described Jesus in a different way than they imagined Him.

Therefore, Jim sticks to characters he made up, like Michael and Forthill, and guys like Uriel who have no scripture really describing them.  Thus, all Jim has to do is stay within the broad borders of "Catholicism" and describe those others in large terms.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Paying the Rent
« on: May 04, 2020, 11:07:34 AM »
I think having to make a choice is a Changeling thing, not a scion thing.  I don't think Kincaid ever had to choose, he just is what he is.

The way "Rent" is capitalized it does heavily suggest that he means pa-Rent.  But I don't think he ever says he has to pay HIS Rent.  Always THE Rent.  I never read that short story.  Did the job with Marcone have anything to do with Harry?

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DF Spoilers / Re: End of the Millenium shenanigans
« on: May 03, 2020, 11:54:15 AM »
Quote from: Bad Alias on May 01, 2020, 06:25:42 PM
Most modern Christians say he was both god and man, so it wouldn't be a large departure for Jim to have him be a god and a man who was a wizard or something. But I don't think Jim is going to go into a whole lot of detail about Jesus. I don't think we're going much deeper into Christianity than we got in Skin Game or any other part of the series so far. We might get into what characters believe about it, but I doubt we're going to have an authoritative statement one way or the other about much.

I think he will get a little deeper into Christianity.  He almost has to.  He has brought 5 of the highest and most powerful religious artifacts into the story line and he has said he is a lazy writer, so he isn't going to waste them.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Paying the Rent
« on: May 03, 2020, 11:47:46 AM »
Quote from: Bad Alias on May 02, 2020, 09:02:16 PM
Grey charged Marcone $1. Marcone asked why, Grey responded with "Got to pay the Rent, like everyone else." Marcone basically asked who he paid rent to. He basically didn't answer.

I don't think it has anything to do with Harry.

When did Grey work for Marcone?

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DF Spoilers / Paying the Rent
« on: May 02, 2020, 05:14:30 PM »
It has been discussed before, what Grey meant by 'the Rent'.  It has been assumed that he was referring to his parent and that his parent was a naagloshii.  This led to debates as to whether a naagloshii CAN create an offspring and if so how and why.

But what if he wasn't referring to HIS parent? 

What if he were referring to Harry's parent?  Grey stated that he knew Margaret LeFey, and well enough to describe her as 'a piece of work'.   Meaning that she did somethings he would not have expected.

What if Margaret did something for him?  If he owed her a debt but couldn't repay it because she was dead, so he paid the debt to her son.

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DF Spoilers / Re: What do you look forward to in Peace Talks?
« on: May 01, 2020, 12:04:15 PM »
Seeing how Ebenezer and Thomas interact.

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DF Spoilers / Re: End of the Millenium shenanigans
« on: May 01, 2020, 12:01:29 PM »
I would posit that Jesus was also a Starborn.  Born, literally, under the Star of Bethlehem; had control over demons; returned from the dead, etc...

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DF Spoilers / Re: Thomas the Assassin
« on: April 13, 2020, 02:14:56 PM »
First rule of the Oblivion War: no one talks about The Oblivion War.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Thomas the Assassin
« on: April 12, 2020, 01:26:10 PM »
This could be interesting.  If one of the guests of the svartalves was the last mortal to have knowledge of some ancient god-thing and was getting ready to blab about it, then Thomas could go kill them and erase the god-thing.

This would put Thomas into a bind.  If he tells anyone why he did it he might undo his whole purpose for the killing.  Worse, he might reveal the existence of the Oblivion War, possibly doing irreparable damage to the cause.

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DF Spoilers / Re: While re-reading Fool Moon
« on: April 12, 2020, 01:21:00 PM »
Quote from: Bad Alias on April 10, 2020, 05:43:11 PM
I think that's unlikely because M-Harry doesn't exist until the end of Grave Peril. Additionally, it probably takes M-Harry a while to become evil.

What if M-Harry in Harry's mind is from some point in the future?  We can assume that Harry's universe and the Mirror-universe are concurrent, time-wise.  But what is it that CAUSES Harry to make the different decision that creates the split?  Do we just assume the Many-Worlds Theory that everything that can happen does?  Or did something trigger it?

There's no reason to assume that if M-Harry is a warlock and (in my theory) using black magic to invade Harry's mind, that he wouldn't also go back in time.  In for a penny, in for a pound.

M-Harry sends his mind back in time to his earlier self.  Puts thoughts into his own head to change something that M-Harry did (not go to Bianca's party, kill Susan in the basement, etc...).  This CREATES the divergent timeline.  M-Harry uses his connection to our Harry to swap and escape his own.

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